Re: [ipwave] FCC Moves Plan Forward to Chop Up Vehicle Safety Airwaves
Alexandre Petrescu <alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com> Tue, 17 December 2019 13:11 UTC
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Subject: Re: [ipwave] FCC Moves Plan Forward to Chop Up Vehicle Safety Airwaves
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Le 17/12/2019 à 11:59, Alexandre Petrescu a écrit : > have people elsewhere paid money to get a license to talk in the 5.9GHz > space? > (not in Europe a single person paid such money) while reading my own text... often the RSU manufacturers sell expensive boxes for various reasons: - a true reason is that these boxes are still produced in small numbers; the economy of scale does not apply yet, so they are expensive. A typical RSU box here ranges between 2000 and 5000 Eur even if the motherboard is around 500Eur and the OCB cards can be cheap. - a true reason in Europe might relate to licensing of GeoNetworking technologies to a few manufacturers (list available); but the artificial part of this is that these licenses are not expensive, being under F-RAND conditions at ETSI. - several artificial reasons: the software stack distributed under binary form when the source code is available from ETSI, ISO and asn1c. - a true reason: very high dynamics of standards with new version almost every year (new CAM options, new SRMs, etc), make support to be expensive to pay. In reality, an IP-RSU box should not cost more than 1000Eur hardened enclosure including. So one pays large money to deploy and then the deployment is not used. It is indeed a curious situation. Alex > > Le 17/12/2019 à 11:56, Abdussalam Baryun a écrit : >> Hi Alex, >> >> I think it is still a debate and not final decision, IMO it is not >> possible change the spectrum while people are already using it and >> paid money for it, therefore, it is only a future plan and may not be >> applied in all locations in the US. Also I would like to know the >> opinion of US participants on this issue please. >> >> AB >> >> On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 11:59 AM Alexandre Petrescu >> <alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com <mailto:alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com>> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> Le 17/12/2019 à 01:01, Russ Housley a écrit : >> > >> >> https://www.consumerreports.org/car-safety/fcc-moves-plan-forward-to-chop-up-vehicle-safety-airwaves/ >> >> [...] >> > The FCC plan would divide 75 MHz of the safety spectrum between >> WiFi >> > and auto safety applications. The FCC proposal allocates 20 MHz >> for a >> > newer V2X technology, known as C-V2X, and leaves 10 MHz for either >> > C-V2X or DSRC. >> >> >> AB> they will need to deliver the technology and implement it, >> >> It is indeed a plan that invites to think about the future. >> >> An implementation of IPv6 over OCB that uses a 20MHz channel, instead of >> 10MHz, would no longer be 'illegal'. >> >> I would like to ask whether FCC considers this potential C-V2X 20MHz >> channel to still be free of use for everyone (like the current 5.9GHz >> band) or will it be licensed and paid for? (like e.g. the 2.6 GHz band >> of LTE). >> >> AB> I think it should be like WiFi usedby all free, >> >> Alex >> >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> > its mailing list >> > its@ietf.org <mailto:its@ietf.org> >> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/its >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> its mailing list >> its@ietf.org <mailto:its@ietf.org> >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/its > > _______________________________________________ > its mailing list > its@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/its
- [ipwave] FCC Moves Plan Forward to Chop Up Vehicl… Russ Housley
- Re: [ipwave] FCC Moves Plan Forward to Chop Up Ve… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] FCC Moves Plan Forward to Chop Up Ve… Abdussalam Baryun
- Re: [ipwave] FCC Moves Plan Forward to Chop Up Ve… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] FCC Moves Plan Forward to Chop Up Ve… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] FCC Moves Plan Forward to Chop Up Ve… Abdussalam Baryun
- Re: [ipwave] FCC Moves Plan Forward to Chop Up Ve… Abdussalam Baryun
- Re: [ipwave] FCC Moves Plan Forward to Chop Up Ve… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] FCC Moves Plan Forward to Chop Up Ve… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] FCC Moves Plan Forward to Chop Up Ve… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] FCC Moves Plan Forward to Chop Up Ve… Abdussalam Baryun
- Re: [ipwave] FCC Moves Plan Forward to Chop Up Ve… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] FCC Moves Plan Forward to Chop Up Ve… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] FCC Moves Plan Forward to Chop Up Ve… Abdussalam Baryun
- Re: [ipwave] FCC Moves Plan Forward to Chop Up Ve… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] FCC Moves Plan Forward to Chop Up Ve… Jérôme Härri
- Re: [ipwave] FCC Moves Plan Forward to Chop Up Ve… Jérôme Härri
- Re: [ipwave] FCC Moves Plan Forward to Chop Up Ve… Alexandre Petrescu
- [ipwave] Commenting on the FCC plan (was: Re: FCC… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] Commenting on the FCC plan (was: Re:… Abdussalam Baryun
- Re: [ipwave] Commenting on the FCC plan Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] Commenting on the FCC plan Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] Commenting on the FCC plan Abdussalam Baryun
- Re: [ipwave] Commenting on the FCC plan Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] Commenting on the FCC plan Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] Commenting on the FCC plan Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] Commenting on the FCC plan Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] Commenting on the FCC plan Abdussalam Baryun
- Re: [ipwave] Commenting on the FCC plan fygsimon@gmail.com
- Re: [ipwave] Commenting on the FCC plan Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] Commenting on the FCC plan Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] Commenting on the FCC plan Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] Commenting on the FCC plan Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] Commenting on the FCC plan Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] Commenting on the FCC plan Chris Shen
- Re: [ipwave] Commenting on the FCC plan, and a no… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] Commenting on the FCC plan, and a no… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] Commenting on the FCC plan - related… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] Commenting on the FCC plan - related… Alexandre Petrescu