Re: [ipwave] Barry Leiba's Discuss on draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6-over-80211ocb-49: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
Nabil Benamar <n.benamar@est.umi.ac.ma> Thu, 11 July 2019 13:42 UTC
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From: Nabil Benamar <n.benamar@est.umi.ac.ma>
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2019 14:42:12 +0100
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To: Barry Leiba <barryleiba@computer.org>
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Subject: Re: [ipwave] Barry Leiba's Discuss on draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6-over-80211ocb-49: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
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Much much appreciated, Barry! Thanks to everybody reviewing, commenting and proofreading this draft. Yours. On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 2:36 PM Barry Leiba <barryleiba@computer.org> wrote: > Thanks for the quick reply, Nabil, and I will clear my DISCUSS now in > anticipation of the reference change. > > Barry > > On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 4:39 AM Nabil Benamar <n.benamar@est.umi.ac.ma> > wrote: > > > > Hi Barry, > > > > Thank you for your review. > > > > I'll update this reference in the next version. > > Thank you for proofreading the paper and for your comments, which will > be reflected in the next version. > > > > Much appreciated. > > > > On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 5:01 AM Barry Leiba via Datatracker < > noreply@ietf.org> wrote: > >> > >> Barry Leiba has entered the following ballot position for > >> draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6-over-80211ocb-49: Discuss > >> > >> When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all > >> email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this > >> introductory paragraph, however.) > >> > >> > >> Please refer to > https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html > >> for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. > >> > >> > >> The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: > >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6-over-80211ocb/ > >> > >> > >> > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> DISCUSS: > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > >> A very simple point to fix: > >> > >> I think that IEEE-802.11-2016 should be normative because it is the > reference > >> for 802.11-OCB and is the subject of a MUST in Section 4.2. > >> > >> > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> COMMENT: > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > >> These are all editorial comments: > >> > >> — Section 4.4 — > >> > >> For Interface Identifiers for > >> IPv6 address of type 'Link-Local' are discussed in Section 4.3. > >> There’s something wrong with that sentence. Maybe it’s just that the > first > >> word needs to be struck? > >> > >> Regardless of how > >> to form the IID, its length is 64 bits, as is the case of the IPv6 > >> over Ethernet [RFC2464]. > >> > >> There’s something wrong with this sentence too, but I don’t know what > the fix > >> is: I don’t know what the “as is the case...” part is meant to say. > Can you > >> try rephrasing? > >> > >> If > >> semantically opaque IIDs are needed, they MAY be generated using the > >> method for generating semantically opaque IIDs > >> > >> This isn’t wrong with the “MAY”, but I think it really is just a > non-keyword > >> “may”. > >> > >> — Section 4.5.2 — > >> > >> The meaning of the value "3333" > >> mentioned in that section 7 of [RFC2464] > >> > >> As you’ve just given the section reference in the previous sentence, I > think it > >> reads better to use the context and just say, “The meaning of the value > "3333" > >> mentioned there”. > >> > >> — Section 4.6 — > >> > >> A subnet may be formed over 802.11-OCB interfaces of vehicles that > >> are in close range (not by their in-vehicle interfaces). > >> > >> At first I tried to understand what the in-vehicle interfaces had to do > with > >> the close range. I think it’s clearer with this word order: > >> > >> NEW > >> When vehicles are in close range, a subnet may be formed over > >> 802.11-OCB interfaces (not by their in-vehicle interfaces). > >> END > >> > >> An IPv6 subnet on which Neighbor Discovery protocol (ND) can be > >> mapped on an OCB network if all nodes share a single broadcast > >> Domain, which is generally the case for P2P OCB links; > >> > >> This isn’t a complete sentence: it has a subject, but no verb. What is > it > >> trying to say? Also, the semicolon should be a period, as it’s not > useful to > >> chain it onto the following sentence. > >> > >> strict (e.g. fast drive through IP-RSU coverage) > >> > >> The “e.g.” needs a comma after it (or change it to “such as with”), and > >> “fast-drive-through” needs to be hyphenated, as a compound modifier. > >> > >> — Section 5 — > >> > >> application-layer mechanisms are out-of- > >> scope of this document. > >> > >> Here, “out of scope” should not be hyphenated (it’s not a modifier). > >> > >> and performs attacks > >> without needing to physically break any wall. > >> > >> “and performs attacks” shoud be “and perform attacks”. > >> The “physically break any wall” part seems kind of odd, as there are > clearly no > >> physical walls involved at all. What are you really trying to say? > >> > >> The potential attack vectors are: MAC address spoofing, IP address > >> and session hijacking, and privacy violation Section 5.1. > >> > >> What is “Section 5.1” about? Is that meant to be a citation, like > “[Section > >> 5.1]” ? > >> > >> — Section 5.1 — > >> > >> A vehicle embarking an IP- > >> OBU whose egress interface is 802.11-OCB may expose itself to > >> eavesdropping and subsequent correlation of data; this may reveal > >> data considered private by the vehicle owner; there is a risk of > >> being tracked. > >> > >> It’s awkward to chain three sentences with semicolons. I would > separate the > >> first one: change the first semicolon into a period. > >> > >> as dynamically changing MAC addresses Section 5.2, semantically > >> opaque Interface Identifiers and stable Interface Identifiers > >> Section 4.4. > >> > >> The two section references should be bracketed, as “[Section 5.2]”. > >> > >> Futhermore, for > >> pricavy concerns ([RFC8065]) recommends > >> > >> Make it, “Futhermore, for privacy concerns, [RFC8065] recommends“. > >> > >> — Section 5.1.1 — > >> > >> means, or other visual information (car color, others) MAY constitute > >> privacy risks. > >> > >> This “MAY” should definitely be “may”: it’s just a statement of fact. > >> > >> — Section 5.2 — > >> > >> In 802.11-OCB networks, the MAC addresses MAY change during well > >> defined renumbering events. > >> > >> Also a statement of fact, so “may”. > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > > > > Best Regards > > > > Nabil Benamar > > Associate Professor > > Department of Computer Sciences > > School of Technology > > Moulay Ismail University > > Meknes. Morocco > > > > > -- Best Regards Nabil Benamar Associate Professor Department of Computer Sciences School of Technology Moulay Ismail University Meknes. Morocco
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