Re: [ipwave] ITU-R liaison statement 1686

[Russ Housley <[e-mail]>]

Alex:

This seems to be well beyond the scope of the IPWAVE WG.  Perhaps you should respond as an individual.

Russ


> On Oct 20, 2020, at 8:22 AM, Alexandre Petrescu <[e-mail]> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Le 17/10/2020 à 17:17, [e-mail] a écrit :
>> Since it is from ITU-R, it is about spectrum.
> 
> Well, the liaison statement asks this: "Working Party 5A kindly requests
> the interested external organizations to provide material on the
> description, architecture, applications, technologies, and operational
> scenarios of CAVs and the radiocommunication requirements for CAVs."
> 
> This is a very broad request.  I think it is much more than just
> spectrum requirements for CAVs.  I think only their request of
> 'radiocommunication requirements for CAVs' might indeed relate to
> spectrum requirements.
> 
> With respect to 'radiocommunication requirements for CAVs' we could list
> the following:
> - the use of the 5.9GHz band specific to DSRC as used in automated
>  vehicles.  Use IP on the control channel of this band.
> - the use of 3.5GHz band specific to 5G as used in demonstrations of
>  tele-operation of automated shuttle, such as the October Stockholm
>  demonstration made by Ericsson.
> 
> With respect to 'description, architecture, applications, technologies
> and operation scenarios' we could provide a pointer to the Internet
> Draft titled 'IPv6 Wireless Access in Vehicular Environments (IPWAVE):
> Problem Statement and Use Cases'.
> 
> With respect to just the 'operational scenarios' we can provide a few
> additional pointers to CAV-specific use-cases of communication technologies:
> - the 6G use-cases relating to vehicular networking (some such use cases
>  are listed in the 6gip email list of IETF),
> - the ITU-T FG-NET2030 use-cases that relate to automated driving,
> - the recent ToD (Tele Operated Driving) use-case described by 5GAA.
> 
> An additional possibility might be to provide a list of projects
> involving the use of communication systems in CAVs (Connected Automated
> Vehicles).
> 
> Alex
> 
> 
>> Russ
>> On 2020-10-17 04:37, Alexandre Petrescu wrote:
>>> (For information, the ISO TC204 'ITS' too is looking at creating, or enhancing, an 'ADCG' - Automated Driving Control Group.  It is a
>>> group trying to oversee how to bring the different characteristics
>>> of work related to AD into the various WGs of that TC.  They have
>>> started a document titled 'Terms of Reference' on which they might
>>> need feedback.
>>> This is not a liaison statement from ISO TC204, just a FYI.)
>>> Alex
>>> Le 17/10/2020 à 10:31, Alexandre Petrescu a écrit :
>>>> I think too it is a good idea to point to our I-D.
>>>> But, since the ITU-R liaison is about CAV (Connected and Automated Vehicles), I think there would be advantageous to point
>>>> to particular places in the draft that make for Connected and for
>>>> Automated.
>>>> For the Connected part it is straightforward, because many communication protocols are referred to in the I-D.
>>>> For the Automated part, maybe the V2V use-cases described in the
>>>> I-D.
>>>> Maybe other parts of the I-D as well.
>>>> Alex
>>>> Le 17/10/2020 à 09:47, Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong a écrit :
>>>>> Hi Russ, We can point out our IPWAVE Problem Statement and Use
>>>>> Cases Draft can be a good foundation for their work: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networking-19
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
> <https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networking-19>
>>> Thanks.
>>>>> Best Regards, Paul
>>>>> On Sat, Oct 17, 2020 at 4:05 AM <[e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
>>>>> The ITU-R sent a liaison: https://datatracker.ietf.org/liaison/1686/ <https://datatracker.ietf.org/liaison/1686/>
>>>>> Does anyone think that the IPWAVE WG should reply?
>>>>> Russ
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