Re: [ipwave] [Gen-art] Genart telechat review of draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6-over-80211ocb-47

Alissa Cooper <alissa@cooperw.in> Wed, 10 July 2019 18:29 UTC

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Subject: Re: [ipwave] [Gen-art] Genart telechat review of draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6-over-80211ocb-47
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Roni, thanks for your review. Alex, Nabil, thanks for your responses. I entered a DISCUSS ballot to try to get more clarity about the relationship between MAC address changes and IID changes, among other things.

Alissa

> On Jul 4, 2019, at 2:05 AM, Roni Even via Datatracker <noreply@ietf.org> wrote:
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> Reviewer: Roni Even
> Review result: Ready with Issues
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> Document: draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6-over-80211ocb-47
> Reviewer: Roni Even
> Review Date: 2019-07-03
> IETF LC End Date: None
> IESG Telechat date: 2019-07-11
> 
> Summary:
> The document is ready to be published as a standard track RFC with an issue
> 
> Major issues:
> 
> Minor issues:
> 
> this is about my previous comment.
> The text in section 5.1 "A vehicle embarking  an IP-OBU whose egress interface
> is 802.11-OCB may expose itself to  eavesdropping and subsequent correlation of
> data; this may reveal data considered private by the vehicle owner; there is a
> risk of being tracked.  In outdoors public environments, where vehicles
> typically circulate, the privacy risks are more important than in indoors
> settings." and "there is a strong necessity to use protection tools such  as
> dynamically changing MAC addresses"
> so even though there are privacy concerns there is no normative text saying
> that some method is needed. "strong necessity" is not normative .
> 
> A new sentence was added to section 5.1 "An example of change policy is to
> change the MAC address of the OCB interface each time the system boots up"
> 
> I got more confused by section 5.2 text "The policy dictating when the MAC
> address is changed on the 802.11-OCB interface is to-be-determined."
> 
> So what I got from section 5.1 and 5.2 is that protection tools to address
> privacy concern are needed but without any normative text.  Dynamic changing 
> of MAC address is an option, no other option is mentioned.  Example for when to
> change MAC address is on system boot and the policy when to change MAC address
> is to be determined.
> 
> To summarize what the document currently says is that privacy risks are more
> important for outdoor public environment and it is left for implementations to
> decide if and how to address it.
> 
> Nits/editorial comments:
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