Re: [ipwave] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networking-16

"Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong" <jaehoon.paul@gmail.com> Wed, 29 July 2020 11:57 UTC

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From: "Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong" <jaehoon.paul@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2020 20:57:14 +0900
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Subject: Re: [ipwave] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networking-16
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Carlos,
I have submitted the revision -19:
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networking-19

The tool for idnits is found:
https://www6.ietf.org/tools/idnits/

The OMNI draft has the latest version of -27:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-templin-6man-omni-interface/

Thanks.

Best Regards,
Paul

On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 7:35 PM Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong <
jaehoon.paul@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Alex,
> Thanks for your kind suggestions.
> But I prefer to use the current structure of the XML file to save time.
>
> Carlos,
> Could you share the URL to check the nits of the I-D, especially unused
> references, before the submission of the revision?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Best Regards,
> Paul
>
> 2020년 7월 29일 (수) 오후 6:29, Alexandre Petrescu <alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com>님이
> 작성:
>
>> it is these two nits:
>> >  == Unused Reference: 'RFC6775' is defined on line 1566, but no explicit
>> >      reference was found in the text
>> >
>> >   -- Unexpected draft version: The latest known version of
>> >      draft-templin-6man-omni-interface is -07, but you're referring to
>> -27.
>>
>> For the first nit (rfc6775 "6lowpan ND") there are two possibilities:
>> (1) remove the entire xml group starting with " <reference
>> anchor="RFC6775">" or (2) ask about how to talk about 6lowpan ND in
>> vehicular networks.
>>
>> For my part, I think I heard at IETF talk about a demo using 6lowpan
>> technology between cars stationed in a parking.
>>
>> For the second nit (omni interface versions -07  vs -27), there are some
>> strange things with the pointers to the omni draft.
>>
>> In tools.ietf.org the most recent version of omni draft is -13 but there
>> is a spectacular jump between -07 and -13 without intermediary versions.
>>   There are diffs between -13 and -12 though.  There is also a -27
>> version indeed at
>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-templin-6man-omni-interface-27
>> There is no -28 version.
>>
>> For my part, when I write an xml I-D, I use a special way of referring
>> to another I-D, instead of the typical <reference> used to refer to
>> non-IETF documents.  In the Informative <references> section I use this
>> kind of text below:
>>
>> >       <?rfc
>> >         include="
>> http://xml2rfc.ietf.org/public/rfc/bibxml3/reference.I-D.ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networking
>> "
>> >       ?>
>>
>> Notice there is no version number written in the filename of the draft.
>>   It is then the system that makes sure to add the right version number.
>>
>> Alex
>>
>>
>> Le 29/07/2020 à 11:06, CARLOS JESUS BERNARDOS CANO a écrit :
>> > Hi Paul,
>> >
>> > It still has some nits:
>> >
>> >
>> https://www6.ietf.org/tools/idnits?url=https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networking-18.txt
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > Carlos
>> >
>> > On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 9:49 AM Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong
>> > <jaehoon.paul@gmail.com <mailto:jaehoon.paul@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> >     Carlos,
>> >     I have posted the revision -18 that addresses the nits issues:
>> >
>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networking-18
>> >
>> >     Thanks.
>> >
>> >     Best Regards,
>> >     Paul
>> >
>> >     On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 4:17 PM Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong
>> >     <jaehoon.paul@gmail.com <mailto:jaehoon.paul@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> >         Hi Carlos,
>> >         I will include the dummy IANA Section and remove the unused
>> >         references in the revision today.
>> >
>> >         Thanks.
>> >
>> >         Best Regards,
>> >         Paul
>> >
>> >
>> >         On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 3:34 PM CARLOS JESUS BERNARDOS CANO
>> >         <cjbc@it.uc3m.es <mailto:cjbc@it.uc3m.es>> wrote:
>> >
>> >             Hi Paul,
>> >
>> >             Thanks for the update. Can you please take a look at the
>> >             nits that idnits returns and solve the ones about unused
>> >             references (the rest I think do not really apply)?
>> >
>> >
>> https://www.ietf.org/tools/idnits?url=https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networking-17.txt
>> >
>> >             Thanks,
>> >
>> >             Carlos
>> >
>> >             On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 3:36 AM Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong
>> >             <jaehoon.paul@gmail.com <mailto:jaehoon.paul@gmail.com>>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >                 Hi Russ and Carlos,
>> >                 I have posted the revision -17 having Fred's comments
>> >                 during the WGLC.
>> >
>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networking-17
>> >
>> >                 Thanks.
>> >
>> >                 Best Regards,
>> >                 Paul
>> >
>> >                 On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 10:33 AM Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong
>> >                 <jaehoon.paul@gmail.com <mailto:jaehoon.paul@gmail.com
>> >>
>> >                 wrote:
>> >
>> >                     Hi Russ and Carlos,
>> >                     I will reflect Fred's suggested text changes during
>> >                     the WGLC.
>> >                     I will post the revision by this Wednesday in EST.
>> >
>> >                     Thanks.
>> >
>> >                     Best Regards,
>> >                     Paul
>> >
>> >                     On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 12:26 AM Russ Housley
>> >                     <housley@vigilsec.com <mailto:housley@vigilsec.com
>> >>
>> >                     wrote:
>> >
>> >                         Thanks, Fred..
>> >
>> >                         Authors, when do you expect to post the next
>> update?
>> >
>> >                         Russ
>> >
>> >
>> >                          > On Jul 27, 2020, at 11:23 AM, Templin (US),
>> >                         Fred L <Fred.L.Templin@boeing.com
>> >                         <mailto:Fred.L.Templin@boeing.com>> wrote:
>> >                          >
>> >                          > Russ, I was expecting to see a new draft
>> >                         version -17 posted that addresses my list
>> >                          > comments from 7/13/2020 before the document
>> >                         would be sent to the IESG. So,
>> >                          > please let us ask the authors to post the -17
>> >                         and verify that the comments are
>> >                          > addressed before sending to the IESG.
>> >                          >
>> >                          > Thanks - Fred
>> >                          >
>> >                          >> -----Original Message-----
>> >                          >> From: its [mailto:its-bounces@ietf.org
>> >                         <mailto:its-bounces@ietf.org>] On Behalf Of
>> Russ
>> >                         Housley
>> >                          >> Sent: Monday, July 27, 2020 6:57 AM
>> >                          >> To: its <its@ietf.org <mailto:its@ietf.org
>> >>
>> >                          >> Subject: Re: [ipwave] WG Last Call for
>> >                         draft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networking-16
>> >                          >>
>> >                          >> I did not see any objections to this
>> >                         document being sent to the IESG.  Carlos has
>> >                         agree to do the shepherd write-up, and he will
>> share
>> >                          >> it later this week.
>> >                          >>
>> >                          >> Russ
>> >                          >>
>> >                          >>
>> >                          >>> On Jul 12, 2020, at 12:28 PM, Russ Housley
>> >                         <housley@vigilsec.com
>> >                         <mailto:housley@vigilsec.com>> wrote:
>> >                          >>>
>> >                          >>> This is the IPWAVE WG Last Call for "IPv6
>> >                         Wireless Access in Vehicular Environments
>> >                         (IPWAVE): Problem Statement and Use Cases”
>> >                          >>
>> >                         <draft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networking-16>.
>> >                         Please review the document and send your
>> >                         comments to the list by 26 July 2020.
>> >                          >>>
>> >                          >>> The datatracker page for the document is
>> >
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networking/
>> >                          >>>
>> >                          >>> Thanks,
>> >                          >>> Russ & Carlos
>> >                          >>
>> >                          >>
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>> >                     Mr. Jaehoon (Paul) Jeong, Ph.D.
>> >                     Associate Professor
>> >                     Department of Computer Science and Engineering
>> >                     Sungkyunkwan University
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>> >                 --
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>> >                 Mr. Jaehoon (Paul) Jeong, Ph.D.
>> >                 Associate Professor
>> >                 Department of Computer Science and Engineering
>> >                 Sungkyunkwan University
>> >                 Office: +82-31-299-4957
>> >                 Email: jaehoon.paul@gmail.com
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>> >         --
>> >         ===========================
>> >         Mr. Jaehoon (Paul) Jeong, Ph.D.
>> >         Associate Professor
>> >         Department of Computer Science and Engineering
>> >         Sungkyunkwan University
>> >         Office: +82-31-299-4957
>> >         Email: jaehoon.paul@gmail.com <mailto:jaehoon.paul@gmail.com>,
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>> >
>> >     --
>> >     ===========================
>> >     Mr. Jaehoon (Paul) Jeong, Ph.D.
>> >     Associate Professor
>> >     Department of Computer Science and Engineering
>> >     Sungkyunkwan University
>> >     Office: +82-31-299-4957
>> >     Email: jaehoon.paul@gmail.com <mailto:jaehoon.paul@gmail.com>,
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