Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6-over-80211ocb-34 - ref to 802.11 standard - free or not free

["Joel M. Halpern" <[e-mail]>]

Following the link Pascal provided, I get a summary page, witha pdf link.
If I follow that link, it offers me a free login to get the document.
So yes, it is available for free.

Yours,
Joel

On 4/8/19 3:35 PM, Alexandre Petrescu wrote:
> Pascal,
> 
> I would like to clarify this.
> 
> At this time I dont have access to 802.11 standard.  I dont think you 
> have access either, other than via your organisation maybe, but not as 
> an individual.
> 
> Please let me know whether you have free access?
> 
> Can you click and get the document now?
> 
> Many people say IEEE 802.11-2016 is free, but it depends what they mean 
> by free. At this time I understand it can be "*Please note: free 
> consultation available to organizations only, not for individuals or 
> students."
> 
> I would like to debug this to better understand.  Web browsing is not easy.
> 
> The page you point to leads to this figure 
> (https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/7786995)
> 
> Remark "You do not have access to this PDF" when rolling the mouse over 
> the small red "PDF" button which becomes black.
> 
> 
> 
> Then, I click on that PDF button and I obtain this login page.  This 
> login page says that I should Sign In to access this free standard.
> 
> 
> That requests to create an account.  I try to create an account.
> 
> Then that says "Thank you for your submission", and "An IEEE Content 
> Specialist will contact you soon".
> 
> 
> Alex
> 
> Le 08/04/2019 à 15:13, Pascal Thubert (pthubert) a écrit :
>> "
>> The PDF of this standard is available at no cost compliments of the IEEE GET programhttp://ieeexplore.ieee.org/browse/standards/get-program/page/)
>> "
>> =>https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/7786995  
>>
>> All the best,
>>
>> Pascal
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Alexandre Petrescu<[e-mail]>
>>> Sent: lundi 8 avril 2019 18:42
>>> To: Pascal Thubert (pthubert)<[e-mail]>
>>> Cc:[e-mail];[e-mail];[e-mail]; draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6-over-
>>> [e-mail]
>>> Subject: Re: Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6-over-80211ocb-34 -
>>> ref ro 802.11 standard
>>>
>>>
>>> Le 04/03/2019 à 12:24, Pascal Thubert a écrit :
>>>> Reviewer: Pascal Thubert
>>>> Review result: Not Ready
>>>>
>>> [...]
>>>
>>>> Nits
>>>> ------
>>>>
>>>> "
>>>>      IP packets MUST be transmitted over 802.11-OCB media as QoS Data
>>>>      frames whose format is specified in IEEE Std 802.11.
>>>> "
>>>> Please add link to the reference
>>> I added like below.
>>>
>>> But beware that:
>>> - it is the third time we refer to this document in the text.
>>> - the document behind the URL is behind a paywall, even though the
>>>     description of the document is free of access.
>>>
>>>
>>> NEW:
>>>>     IP packets MUST be transmitted over 802.11-OCB media as QoS Data
>>>>     frames whose format is specified in IEEE 802.11(TM) -2016
>>>>     [IEEE-802.11-2016].
>>> [...]
>>>>     [IEEE-802.11-2016]
>>>>                "IEEE Standard 802.11-2016 - IEEE Standard for Information
>>>>                Technology - Telecommunications and information exchange
>>>>                between systems Local and metropolitan area networks -
>>>>                Specific requirements - Part 11: Wireless LAN Medium
>>>>                Access Control (MAC) and Physical Layer (PHY)
>>>>                Specifications. Status - Active Standard.  Description
>>>>                retrieved freely on September 12th, 2017, at URL
>>>>                https://standards.ieee.org/findstds/
>>>>                standard/802.11-2016.html".
>>> Alex