Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6-over-80211ocb-34 - free or not free access to 802.11-2016 document

Alexandre Petrescu <alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com> Mon, 08 April 2019 14:35 UTC

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Subject: Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6-over-80211ocb-34 - free or not free access to 802.11-2016 document
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Carsten,

Le 08/04/2019 à 16:17, Carsten Bormann a écrit :
> On Apr 8, 2019, at 15:02, Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
> <pthubert@cisco.com> wrote:
>> 
>> For all I know, IEEE documents are generally available for free 6
>> months after the publication.
> 
> (This is true specifically for IEEE 802 documents through the get802
> program, and a few other places they have seen the light.  Generally,
> IEEE’s business model is still largely based on selling documents.)

I can agree with the principle.

In this particular case, is it too much that I ask you to please
download this 802.11-2016 document
https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/7786995

If you already have an account via an organisation, please remove it
from the Options of your browser (so it does not pre-fill the form with
some password) and try to follow the IEEE procedure to maybe make a new one.

If you access IEEE via an organisation's IP address (so your
organisation's name is seen at the top of the page) then try to access
it from home, or from smartphone.

If you think the IEEE GET Program gives some additional access ("With
support from the IEEE-SA, industry sponsors, and government, a number of
IEEE standards are available for download at no cost.  This program,
entitled IEEE GET ProgramTM, grants public access to view and/or
download these current individual standards.) please go to its URL
and see that they list 802.11 but then it points to the same URL as at
the beginning of this email, so cant download.

If it is too much to ask, sorry.

(I already asked a co-author to do this - no answer; and another
knowledgeable person just now doubts in private the availability
statements).

Alex