Re: [ipwave] [EXTERNAL] Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networking-15.txt

"Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong" <jaehoon.paul@gmail.com> Mon, 06 July 2020 14:03 UTC

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Subject: Re: [ipwave] [EXTERNAL] Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networking-15.txt
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Hi Fred,
I have reflected your comments about the references and OMNI link model on
the next revision as follows.

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Section 4.1. Vehicular Network Architecture

Wireless communications needs to be considered for end systems for Urban
Air Mobility (UAM)
such as flying cars and taxis [UAM-ITS]. These UAM end systems may have
multiple wireless
transmission media interfaces (e.g., cellular, communications satellite
(SATCOM), short-range
omni-directional interfaces), which are offered by different data link
service providers.
To support not only the mobility management of the UAM end systems, but
also the multihop
and multilink communications of the UAM interfaces, the UAM end systems can
employ an
Overlay Multilink Network (OMNI) interface [OMNI-Interface] as a virtual
Non-Broadcast
Multiple Access (NBMA) connection to a serving ground domain
infrastructure. This
infrastructure can be configured over the underlying data links. The OMNI
interface and its
link model provide a means of multilink, multihop and mobility coordination
to the legacy
IPv6 ND messaging [RFC4861] according to the NBMA principle. Thus, the OMNI
link model
can support efficient UAM internetworking services without additional
mobility messaging,
and without any modification to the IPv6 ND messaging services or link
model.
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I attach a temporary pdf file for the revision.

Is this text fine to you?

Thanks.

Best Regards,
Paul

On Sun, Jul 5, 2020 at 1:40 AM Templin (US), Fred L <
Fred.L.Templin@boeing.com> wrote:

> Paul, thank you for your efforts. Please note that the references you have
>
> included for AERO and LISP are out of date. The correct references are:
>
>
>
> LISP:  draft-ietf-lisp-rfc6830bis
>
> AERO: draft-templin-intarea-6706bis
>
>
>
> About OMNI, the text you have offered does not quite capture the concepts
>
> I believe should appear in your document. Please see Section 4 of
>
> “Urban Air Mobility Implications for Intelligent Transportation Systems”:
>
>
>
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-templin-ipwave-uam-its/
>
>
>
> This explains the OMNI link model as applied to Urban Air Mobility (e.g.,
>
> flying cars and taxis), but the concepts are one and the same with what
>
> should be discussed for terrestrial vehicle and pedestrian communications.
>
> Please review the text (see below) and adopt in your document.
>
>
>
> Thanks - Fred
>
>
>
> ---
>
> 4.  The Overlay Multilink Network (OMNI) Interface
>
>
>
>    UAM end systems will often have multiple diverse wireless
>
>    transmission media interfaces (including cellular, SATCOM, short-
>
>    range omni-directional, etc.) offered by different data link service
>
>    providers.  In order to provide mobility, multihop and multilink
>
>    services, UAM end systems can employ an Overlay Multilink Network
>
>    (OMNI) interface [I-D.templin-6man-omni-interface] as a virtual Non-
>
>    Broadcast Multiple Access (NBMA) connection to the serving ground
>
>    domain infrastructure configured over the underlying data links.
>
>
>
>    The OMNI interface and link model provide a nexus for multilink,
>
>    multihop and mobility coordination using standard IPv6 Neighbor
>
>    Discovery (ND) messaging [RFC4861] according to the NBMA principle.
>
>    The OMNI model therefore supports efficient UAM internetworking
>
>    services with no need for adjunct mobility messaging, nor
>
>    modifications to the IPv6 ND messaging services or link model.
>
>
>
> *From:* its [mailto:its-bounces@ietf.org] *On Behalf Of *Mr. Jaehoon Paul
> Jeong
> *Sent:* Monday, June 29, 2020 2:50 AM
> *To:* its@ietf.org
> *Cc:* Peter E. Yee <peter@akayla.com>; skku-iotlab-members <
> skku-iotlab-members@googlegroups.com>; Yong-Joon Joe <eugene@lsware.com>;
> Zeungil Kim <ben.kim@hyundai.com>; Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong <
> jaehoon.paul@gmail.com>
> *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] Re: [ipwave] I-D Action:
> draft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networking-15.txt
>
>
>
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>
> Hi IPWAVE WG,
>
> I have submitted the revision of IPWAVE PS Draft as follows:
>
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networking-15
>
>
>
> The following 8 people reviewed this draft:
>
>  Nancy Cam-Winget (Cisco),
>
>  Fred L. Templin (The Boeing Company),
>
>  Jung-Soo Park (ETRI),
>
>  Zeungil (Ben) Kim (Hyundai Motors),
>
>  Kyoungjae Sun (Soongsil University),
>
>  Zhiwei Yan (CNNIC),
>
>  Yong-Joon Joe (LSware), and
>
>  Peter E. Yee (Akayla).
>
>
>
> I sincerely appreciate those reviewers' efforts to improve our IPWAVE PS
> WG draft.
>
>
>
> I attach the revision letter to show how I have addressed their comments.
>
>
>
> The reviewers above (i.e., Nancy, Fred, Jung-Soo, Zeungil, Kyoungjae,
> Zhiwei, Yong-Joon, and Peter),
>
> Could you doublecheck whether or not my revision has addressed your
> comments by July 5th, 2020 in EST?
>
>
>
> If you have further comments, please let me know.
>
>
>
> If this review during this period does not raise other further comments, I
> would like to ask for a WGLC on this draft.
>
>
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Paul
>
>   --
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> ===========================
> Mr. Jaehoon (Paul) Jeong, Ph.D.
> Associate Professor
> Department of Computer Science and Engineering
> Sungkyunkwan University
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>
>
> On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 6:22 PM <internet-drafts@ietf.org> wrote:
>
>
> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
> directories.
> This draft is a work item of the IP Wireless Access in Vehicular
> Environments WG of the IETF.
>
>         Title           : IPv6 Wireless Access in Vehicular Environments
> (IPWAVE): Problem Statement and Use Cases
>         Author          : Jaehoon Paul Jeong (editor)
>         Filename        : draft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networking-15.txt
>         Pages           : 39
>         Date            : 2020-06-29
>
> Abstract:
>    This document discusses the problem statement and use cases of
>    IPv6-based vehicular networking for Intelligent Transportation
>    Systems (ITS).  The main scenarios of vehicular communications are
>    vehicle-to-vehicle (V2V), vehicle-to-infrastructure (V2I), and
>    vehicle-to-everything (V2X) communications.  First, this document
>    explains use cases using V2V, V2I, and V2X networking.  Next, for
>    IPv6-based vehicular networks, it makes a gap analysis of current
>    IPv6 protocols (e.g., IPv6 Neighbor Discovery, Mobility Management,
>    and Security & Privacy), and then lists up requirements for the
>    extensions of those IPv6 protocols for IPv6-based vehicular
>    networking.
>
>
> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networking/
>
> There are also htmlized versions available at:
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networking-15
>
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networking-15
>
> A diff from the previous version is available at:
> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-ipwave-vehicular-networking-15
>
>
> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of
> submission
> until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org.
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Department of Computer Science and Engineering
Sungkyunkwan University
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Email: jaehoon.paul@gmail.com, pauljeong@skku.edu
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