Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6-over-80211ocb-34
Alexandre Petrescu <alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com> Fri, 12 April 2019 15:17 UTC
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Subject: Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6-over-80211ocb-34
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I agree with you Sri. You raised these issues much earlier, even prior to WG formation. WE discussed back and forth about this since long. WE found a way forward each time: separate ND into another work. Alex Le 12/04/2019 à 16:59, Sri Gundavelli (sgundave) a écrit : > If you go back and check 2017 archives, I did raise many of these > issues. But, we clearly decided to limit the scope excluding address > configuration, DAD, ND aspect, link models. When there is such a scope > statement, it should clearly move these comments to the draft that > defines how ND works for 802.11-OCB links. > > > https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/its/9NvUfRigGd4Klu0Q2Ee-63ziATw > > https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/its/VcrwNSvNJVIZNcRLNjDY0iSw3CA > > Sri > > > > > From: its <its-bounces@ietf.org <mailto:its-bounces@ietf.org>> on behalf > of Sri Gundavelli <sgundave@cisco.com <mailto:sgundave@cisco.com>> > Date: Friday, April 12, 2019 at 7:38 AM > To: Nabil Benamar <benamar73@gmail.com <mailto:benamar73@gmail.com>>, > "Pascal Thubert (pthubert)" <pthubert@cisco.com <mailto:pthubert@cisco.com>> > Cc: "ietf@ietf.org <mailto:ietf@ietf.org>" <ietf@ietf.org > <mailto:ietf@ietf.org>>, "its@ietf.org <mailto:its@ietf.org>" > <its@ietf.org <mailto:its@ietf.org>>, "int-dir@ietf.org > <mailto:int-dir@ietf.org>" <int-dir@ietf.org <mailto:int-dir@ietf.org>>, > Nabil Benamar <n.benamar@est.umi.ac.ma > <mailto:n.benamar@est.umi.ac.ma>>, > "draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6-over-80211ocb.all@ietf.org > <mailto:draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6-over-80211ocb.all@ietf.org>" > <draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6-over-80211ocb.all@ietf.org > <mailto:draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6-over-80211ocb.all@ietf.org>>, Alexandre > Petrescu <alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com > <mailto:alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com>> > Subject: Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of > draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6-over-80211ocb-34 > > I am not following these discussions. From my point of view, many of > the discussions are totally out of scope for this document. > > Some one needs to moderate these discussions. > > Sri > > > > From: its <its-bounces@ietf.org <mailto:its-bounces@ietf.org>> on behalf > of Nabil Benamar <benamar73@gmail.com <mailto:benamar73@gmail.com>> > Date: Friday, April 12, 2019 at 7:34 AM > To: "Pascal Thubert (pthubert)" <pthubert@cisco.com > <mailto:pthubert@cisco.com>> > Cc: "ietf@ietf.org <mailto:ietf@ietf.org>" <ietf@ietf.org > <mailto:ietf@ietf.org>>, "its@ietf.org <mailto:its@ietf.org>" > <its@ietf.org <mailto:its@ietf.org>>, "int-dir@ietf.org > <mailto:int-dir@ietf.org>" <int-dir@ietf.org <mailto:int-dir@ietf.org>>, > Nabil Benamar <n.benamar@est.umi.ac.ma > <mailto:n.benamar@est.umi.ac.ma>>, > "draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6-over-80211ocb.all@ietf.org > <mailto:draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6-over-80211ocb.all@ietf.org>" > <draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6-over-80211ocb.all@ietf.org > <mailto:draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6-over-80211ocb.all@ietf.org>>, Alexandre > Petrescu <alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com > <mailto:alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com>> > Subject: Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of > draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6-over-80211ocb-34 > > Hello Pascal, > > I seconded Akex and would like to suggest you to add the missing text in > the draft. > > Best regards > Nabil > > > On Mon, Apr 8, 2019, 14:01 Pascal Thubert (pthubert) <pthubert@cisco.com > <mailto:pthubert@cisco.com>> wrote: > > Hello Nabil.____ > > __ __ > > You will get a number of IESG reviews as part of the submission > process, one per area. This is just a beginning…____ > > __ __ > > Cheers,____ > > __ __ > > Pascal____ > > __ __ > > *From:* NABIL BENAMAR <n.benamar@est.umi.ac.ma > <mailto:n.benamar@est.umi.ac.ma>> > *Sent:* lundi 8 avril 2019 17:53 > *To:* Alexandre Petrescu <alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com > <mailto:alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com>> > *Cc:* Pascal Thubert (pthubert) <pthubert@cisco.com > <mailto:pthubert@cisco.com>>; int-dir@ietf.org > <mailto:int-dir@ietf.org>; ietf@ietf.org <mailto:ietf@ietf.org>; > its@ietf.org <mailto:its@ietf.org>; > draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6-over-80211ocb.all@ietf.org > <mailto:draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6-over-80211ocb.all@ietf..org> > *Subject:* Re: Intdir early review of > draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6-over-80211ocb-34____ > > __ __ > > Yes definitely Alex....____ > > __ __ > > There have been many reviews until now. This should be a late or > final review.____ > > __ __ > > On Mon, Apr 8, 2019, 10:01 Alexandre Petrescu > <alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com <mailto:alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com>> > wrote:____ > > As a note: please improve the title of this.____ > > It is not an early review.____ > > It is a late review.____ > > There have been several reviews of this document until here, and > two shepherd reviews.____ > > Alex____ > > Le 04/03/2019 à 12:24, Pascal Thubert a écrit :____ > > Reviewer: Pascal Thubert____ > > Review result: Not Ready____ > > __ __ > > Reviewer: Pascal Thubert____ > > Review result: Not ready. Need to clarify IEEE relationship, IOW which SDO____ > > defines the use of L2 fields, what this spec enforces vs. recognizes as being____ > > used that way based on IEEE work. The use of IPv6 ND requires a lot more____ > > thoughts, recommendation to use 6LoWPAN ND. The definition of a subnet is____ > > unclear. It seems that RSUs would have prefixes but that is not discussed.____ > > __ __ > > I am an assigned INT and IOT directorates reviewer for <____ > > draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6-over-80211ocb-34 >. These comments were written____ > > primarily for the benefit of the Internet Area Directors. Document editors and____ > > shepherd(s) should treat these comments just like they would treat comments____ > > from any other IETF contributors and resolve them along with any other Last____ > > Call comments that have been received. For more details on the INT Directorate,____ > > seehttps://datatracker.ietf.org/group/intdir/about/____ > > __ __ > > Majors issues____ > > -----------------____ > > __ __ > > “____ > > __ __ > > o Exceptions due to different operation of IPv6 network layer on____ > > 802.11 than on Ethernet.____ > > __ __ > > “____ > > Is this doc scoped to OCB or 802.11 in general? Is there an expectation that an____ > > implementer of IPv6 over Wi-Fi refers to this doc? Spelled as above, it seems____ > > that you are defining the LLC. Figure 1 shows the proposed adaptation layer as____ > > IEEE LLC work. Who defines those fields, IETF or IEEE, or mixed? Who defines____ > > their use? If this spec defines a new LLC header (vs. how to use an IEEE field)____ > > then it should be very clear, and the newly defined fields should be isolated____ > > from IEEE fields.____ > > __ __ > > "____ > > The IPv6 packet transmitted on 802.11-OCB MUST be immediately____ > > preceded by a Logical Link Control (LLC) header and an 802.11 header.____ > > __ __ > > "____ > > Is there anything new or specific to OCB vs. classical 802.11 operations?____ > > If/when this is echoing the IEEE specs then this text should not use uppercase____ > > but say something like: 'Per IEEE Std 802.11, the IPv6 packet transmitted on____ > > 802.11-OCB is immediately preceded by a Logical Link Control (LLC) header and____ > > an 802.11 header ...'____ > > __ __ > > different things? Why define both?____ > > __ __ > > " An 'adaptation' layer is inserted between a MAC layer and the____ > > Networking layer. This is used to transform some parameters between____ > > their form expected by the IP stack and the form provided by the MAC____ > > layer.____ > > "____ > > Is this different from what an AP does when it bridges Wi-Fi to Ethernet? Is____ > > this IETF business?____ > > __ __ > > "____ > > The Receiver and Transmitter Address fields in the 802.11 header MUST____ > > contain the same values as the Destination and the Source Address____ > > fields in the Ethernet II Header, respectively.____ > > "____ > > Same, this is IEEE game isn't it?____ > > __ __ > > "____ > > __ __ > > Solutions for these problems SHOULD____ > > consider the OCB mode of operation.____ > > "____ > > This is not specific enough to be actionable. I suggest to remove this sentence.____ > > It would be of interest for the people defining those solutions to understand____ > > the specific needs of OCB vs. Wi Fi, but I do not see text about that.____ > > __ __ > > "____ > > __ __ > > The method of forming IIDs____ > > described in section 4 of [RFC2464] MAY be used during transition____ > > time.____ > > "____ > > Contradicts section 4.3 that says____ > > "____ > > Among these types of____ > > addresses only the IPv6 link-local addresses MAY be formed using an____ > > EUI-64 identifier.____ > > "____ > > __ __ > > "____ > > __ __ > > This____ > > subnet MUST use at least the link-local prefix fe80::/10 and the____ > > interfaces MUST be assigned IPv6 addresses of type link-local.____ > > "____ > > If this is conforming IPv6 then the MUST is not needed.____ > > __ __ > > "____ > > A subnet is formed by the external 802.11-OCB interfaces of vehicles____ > > that are in close range (not by their in-vehicle interfaces).____ > > "____ > > Is the definition transitive? Do we really get a subnet?____ > > A is close to B who is close to C .... to Z, makes Paris one subnet! Are you____ > > talking about a link, rather?____ > > __ __ > > "____ > > The Neighbor Discovery protocol (ND) [RFC4861] MUST be used over____ > > 802.11-OCB links.____ > > "____ > > __ __ > > IPv6 ND is not suited for a non-broadcast network. How does DAD work?____ > > Maybe you could consider RFC 6775 / RFC 8505 instead.____ > > __ __ > > "____ > > In the moment the MAC address is changed____ > > on an 802.11-OCB interface all the Interface Identifiers of IPv6____ > > addresses assigned to that interface MUST change.____ > > "____ > > Why is that? This is unexpected, and hopefully wrong.____ > > __ __ > > Minor issues____ > > ---------------____ > > __ __ > > " OCB (outside the context of a basic service set - BSS): A mode of____ > > operation in which a STA is not a member of a BSS and does not____ > > utilize IEEE Std 802.11 authentication, association, or data____ > > confidentiality.____ > > __ __ > > 802.11-OCB: mode specified in IEEE Std 802.11-2016 when the MIB____ > > attribute dot11OCBActivited is true. Note: compliance with standards____ > > and regulations set in different countries when using the 5.9GHz____ > > frequency band is required.____ > > "____ > > __ __ > > Are these 2 different things?____ > > __ __ > > "____ > > Among these types of____ > > addresses only the IPv6 link-local addresses MAY be formed using an____ > > EUI-64 identifier.____ > > "____ > > This text should not be in a LL specific section since it deals with the other____ > > addresses. Maybe rename the section to "addressing" or something?____ > > __ __ > > "____ > > For privacy, the link-local address MAY be formed according to the____ > > mechanisms described in Section 5.2.____ > > "____ > > The MAY is not helpful. I suggest to remove the sentence that does not bring____ > > value vs. 5.2____ > > __ __ > > Could you make sections 4.3 and 4.5 contiguous?____ > > __ __ > > "____ > > If semantically____ > > opaque Interface Identifiers are needed, a potential method for____ > > generating semantically opaque Interface Identifiers with IPv6____ > > Stateless Address Autoconfiguration is given in [RFC7217]...____ > > __ __ > > Semantically opaque Interface Identifiers, instead of meaningful____ > > Interface Identifiers derived from a valid and meaningful MAC address____ > > ([RFC2464], section 4), MAY be needed in order to avoid certain____ > > privacy risks.____ > > __ __ > > ...____ > > __ __ > > In order to avoid these risks, opaque Interface Identifiers MAY be____ > > formed according to rules described in [RFC7217]. These opaque____ > > Interface Identifiers are formed starting from identifiers different____ > > than the MAC addresses, and from cryptographically strong material.____ > > Thus, privacy sensitive information is absent from Interface IDs, and____ > > it is impossible to calculate the initial value from which the____ > > Interface ID was calculated.____ > > __ __ > > "____ > > Duplicate and mis ordered text, isn't it?____ > > __ __ > > " For this reason, an attacker may realize many____ > > attacks on privacy.____ > > "____ > > Do we attack privacy? Maybe say that privacy is a real concern, and maybe move____ > > that text to security section?____ > > __ __ > > "____ > > The way Interface Identifiers are used MAY involve risks to privacy,____ > > as described in Section 5.1.____ > > "____ > > Also duplicate____ > > __ __ > > Nits____ > > ------____ > > __ __ > > "____ > > IP packets MUST be transmitted over 802.11-OCB media as QoS Data____ > > frames whose format is specified in IEEE Std 802.11.____ > > "____ > > Please add link to the reference____ > > __ __ > > " the 802.11 hidden node"____ > > Do not use 802.11 standalone (multiple occurrences).____ > > => "the IEEE Std. 802.11 [ ref ] hidden node", or just "the hidden terminal".____ > > __ __ > > BCP 14 text:____ > > __ __ > > Suggest to use this text:____ > > “____ > > The key words "MUST", "MUST NOT", "REQUIRED", "SHALL", "SHALL NOT",____ > > "SHOULD", "SHOULD NOT", "RECOMMENDED", "NOT RECOMMENDED", "MAY", and____ > > "OPTIONAL" in this document are to be interpreted as described in____ > > https://tools.ietf.org/html/bcp14 https://tools.ietf.org/html/bcp14____ > > [https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2119][RFC8174] when, and only when, they____ > > appear in all capitals, as shown here.____ > > __ __ > > “____ > > __ __ > > All the best____ > > __ __ > > Pascal____ > > __ __ > > __ __ > > __ __ > > _______________________________________________ > its mailing list > its@ietf.org <mailto:its@ietf.org> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/its >
- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… Nabil Benamar
- [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ipwave… Pascal Thubert
- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… Alexandre PETRESCU
- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… Alexandre Petrescu
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- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… Alexandre Petrescu
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- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… Alexandre Petrescu
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- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… Abdussalam Baryun
- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… NABIL BENAMAR
- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… Rob Wilton (rwilton)
- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… Russ Housley
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- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… CARLOS JESUS BERNARDOS CANO
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- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… CARLOS JESUS BERNARDOS CANO
- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… Suresh Krishnan
- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [ipwave] [Int-dir] Intdir early review of dra… 神明達哉
- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] [Int-dir] Intdir early review of dra… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] [Int-dir] Intdir early review of dra… 神明達哉
- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… Ole Troan
- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… Ole Troan
- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] [Int-dir] Intdir early review of dra… Ole Troan
- Re: [ipwave] [Int-dir] Intdir early review of dra… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] [Int-dir] Intdir early review of dra… Ole Troan
- Re: [ipwave] [Int-dir] Intdir early review of dra… Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [ipwave] [Int-dir] Intdir early review of dra… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] [Int-dir] Intdir early review of dra… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] [Int-dir] Intdir early review of dra… NABIL BENAMAR
- Re: [ipwave] [Int-dir] Intdir early review of dra… Ole Troan
- Re: [ipwave] [Int-dir] Intdir early review of dra… 神明達哉
- Re: [ipwave] [Int-dir] Intdir early review of dra… 神明達哉
- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… Abdussalam Baryun
- Re: [ipwave] [Int-dir] Intdir early review of dra… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [ipwave] [Int-dir] Intdir early review of dra… Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [ipwave] [Int-dir] Intdir early review of dra… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] [Int-dir] Intdir early review of dra… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] [Int-dir] Intdir early review of dra… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] [Int-dir] Intdir early review of dra… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] [Int-dir] Intdir early review of dra… Alexandre PETRESCU
- Re: [ipwave] [Int-dir] Intdir early review of dra… Ole Troan
- Re: [ipwave] [Int-dir] Intdir early review of dra… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] [Int-dir] Intdir early review of dra… Alexandre Petrescu
- [ipwave] IPv6-over-foo and Addressing Architectur… Suresh Krishnan
- Re: [ipwave] IPv6-over-foo and Addressing Archite… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] [Int-dir] Intdir early review of dra… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] [Int-dir] Intdir early review of dra… William Whyte
- Re: [ipwave] [Int-dir] Intdir early review of dra… 神明達哉
- Re: [ipwave] [Int-dir] Intdir early review of dra… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] [Int-dir] Intdir early review of dra… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] about V2I to traffic lights controll… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] [Int-dir] Intdir early review of dra… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [ipwave] [Int-dir] Intdir early review of dra… Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [ipwave] [Int-dir] Intdir early review of dra… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… Abdussalam Baryun
- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… Abdussalam Baryun
- Re: [ipwave] [Int-dir] Intdir early review of dra… Abdussalam Baryun
- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… NABIL BENAMAR
- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… Russ Housley
- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… Nabil Benamar
- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… Sri Gundavelli (sgundave)
- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… NABIL BENAMAR
- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… Sri Gundavelli (sgundave)
- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- [ipwave] link-local text (Re: [Int-dir] Intdir ea… 神明達哉
- Re: [ipwave] [Int-dir] Intdir early review of dra… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… Abdussalam Baryun
- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… Sri Gundavelli (sgundave)
- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… Abdussalam Baryun
- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… NABIL BENAMAR
- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… Nabil Benamar
- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6-over-80211ocb… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6-over-80211ocb… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] link-local text (Re: [Int-dir] Intdi… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] link-local text (Re: [Int-dir] Intdi… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] link-local text (Re: [Int-dir] Intdi… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [ipwave] draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6-over-80211ocb… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [ipwave] draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6-over-80211ocb… Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [ipwave] draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6-over-80211ocb… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] side note RFC 4291 2nd par sec. 2.1 … Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6-over-80211ocb… Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [ipwave] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ip… Jong-Hyouk Lee
- Re: [ipwave] draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6-over-80211ocb… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] pencil and paper vs cars Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6-over-80211ocb… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] link-local text (Re: [Int-dir] Intdi… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6-over-80211ocb… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] Expertise on ND problems on OCB Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] Expertise on ND problems on OCB Charlie Perkins
- Re: [ipwave] link-local text (Re: [Int-dir] Intdi… 神明達哉
- Re: [ipwave] [Int-dir] side note RFC 4291 2nd par… 神明達哉
- Re: [ipwave] link-local text (Re: [Int-dir] Intdi… Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [ipwave] link-local text (Re: [Int-dir] Intdi… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [ipwave] [Int-dir] link-local text (Re: Intdi… 神明達哉
- Re: [ipwave] draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6-over-80211ocb… Brian E Carpenter
- [ipwave] draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6-over-80211ocb and… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [ipwave] draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6-over-80211ocb… Sri Gundavelli (sgundave)
- Re: [ipwave] Expertise on ND problems on OCB Sri Gundavelli (sgundave)
- Re: [ipwave] which BSM? Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] link-local text (Re: [Int-dir] Intdi… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6-over-80211ocb… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] which BSM? William Whyte
- Re: [ipwave] which BSM? Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6-over-80211ocb… Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [ipwave] which BSM? William Whyte
- Re: [ipwave] Expertise on ND problems on OCB Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] which BSM? Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] which BSM? William Whyte
- Re: [ipwave] [Int-dir] side note RFC 4291 2nd par… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] 118 Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] [Int-dir] link-local text (Re: Intdi… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] ND-over-OCB hidden terminals: truck … Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6-over-80211ocb… Alexandre Petrescu
- [ipwave] Hidden terminal problem Charlie Perkins
- Re: [ipwave] [Int-dir] side note RFC 4291 2nd par… 神明達哉
- Re: [ipwave] [Int-dir] side note RFC 4291 2nd par… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] Hidden terminal problem Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] [Int-dir] side note RFC 4291 2nd par… 神明達哉
- Re: [ipwave] [Int-dir] link-local text (Re: Intdi… 神明達哉
- Re: [ipwave] 118 神明達哉
- Re: [ipwave] 118 Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [ipwave] 118 Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] [Int-dir] side note RFC 4291 2nd par… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6-over-80211ocb… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6-over-80211ocb… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] use-cases in Problem Statement Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] use-cases in Problem Statement NABIL BENAMAR
- Re: [ipwave] 118 Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [ipwave] use-cases in Problem Statement Jérôme Härri
- Re: [ipwave] 118 Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] 118 Eric Gray
- Re: [ipwave] [Int-dir] side note RFC 4291 2nd par… 神明達哉
- Re: [ipwave] 118 Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] 118 Stephen Farrell
- Re: [ipwave] [Int-dir] side note RFC 4291 2nd par… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] 118 Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] [Int-dir] side note RFC 4291 2nd par… 神明達哉
- Re: [ipwave] 118 Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [ipwave] [Int-dir] 118 神明達哉
- Re: [ipwave] draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6-over-80211ocb… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [ipwave] Hidden terminal problem Abdussalam Baryun
- Re: [ipwave] use-cases in Problem Statement Abdussalam Baryun
- Re: [ipwave] Expertise on ND problems on OCB Abdussalam Baryun
- Re: [ipwave] Hidden terminal problem Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] [Int-dir] side note RFC 4291 2nd par… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] 118 Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] [Int-dir] 118 Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6-over-80211ocb… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] [Int-dir] 118 神明達哉
- Re: [ipwave] [Int-dir] 118 Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6-over-80211ocb… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [ipwave] [Int-dir] 118 神明達哉
- Re: [ipwave] 118 Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] 118 神明達哉
- Re: [ipwave] [Int-dir] 118 Suresh Krishnan
- Re: [ipwave] 118 Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] [Int-dir] 118 Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] Hidden terminal problem Abdussalam Baryun
- Re: [ipwave] Hidden terminal problem Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] [Int-dir] 118 神明達哉
- Re: [ipwave] [Int-dir] 118 Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] [Int-dir] 118 Russ Housley
- Re: [ipwave] [Int-dir] 118 Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] [Int-dir] 118 Russ Housley
- Re: [ipwave] [Int-dir] 118 Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [ipwave] Expertise on ND problems on OCB Carsten Bormann
- Re: [ipwave] [Int-dir] Expertise on ND problems o… Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [ipwave] Expertise on ND problems on OCB Sri Gundavelli (sgundave)
- Re: [ipwave] Expertise on ND problems on OCB Charlie Perkins
- Re: [ipwave] Expertise on ND problems on OCB Sri Gundavelli (sgundave)
- Re: [ipwave] AH with NIST quantum resistant new a… Alexandre Petrescu