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Re: [ipwave] SeND implementations for ND

"Templin (US), Fred L" <Fred.L.Templin@boeing.com> Wed, 19 December 2018 19:25 UTC

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From: "Templin (US), Fred L" <Fred.L.Templin@boeing.com>
To: Alexandre Petrescu <alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com>, "its@ietf.org" <its@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [ipwave] SeND implementations for ND
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Alex,

Thanks very much for this information, and again thanks for assembling
the list of implementations. Seems there is a significant body of work to
draw from w/o worrying about patents and such.

Fred

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alexandre Petrescu [mailto:alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 4:44 AM
> To: Templin (US), Fred L <Fred.L.Templin@boeing.com>; its@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [ipwave] SeND implementations for ND
> 
> The IPR GB 2367986 and licensing declaration on this RFC SeND are on the
> IETF IPR Disclosure web page.  It's of year 2004.
> 
> To me, the licensing conditions seem very encouraging compared to the
> conditions applying to other RFCs.  These conditions are purely
> defensive and there's no owner-defined 'reasonable'.
> 
> They apply to draft-ietf-send-cga-06.txt "Cryptographically Generated
> Addresses" and to draft-ietf-send-ndopt-06.txt "SeND".  The IPR is very
> much about the former.  The latter has a part distinct and alternative
> of CGA: the RSA signature.
> 
> It should be possible to either implement SeND without risking
> infringing the IPR (maybe dont implement CGA part but the RSA part) or
> when infringing not be afraid of being trialled when not trialling.
> 
> Judging by the number of implementations it is possible that the
> conditions are indeed encouraging to implementer.
> 
> Alex
> 
> 
> Le 13/12/2018 à 16:41, Templin (US), Fred L a écrit :
> > Hi Alex,
> >
> > I appreciate seeing this survey. AERO also requires SeND and so having
> > this list
> >
> > of implementations is very helpful.
> >
> > Can you say more about the IPR conditions?
> >
> > Thanks - Fred
> >
> > *From:*its [mailto:its-bounces@ietf.org] *On Behalf Of *Alexandre Petrescu
> > *Sent:* Thursday, December 13, 2018 7:00 AM
> > *To:* its@ietf.org
> > *Subject:* [ipwave] SeND implementations for ND
> >
> > SeND is Secure Neighbor Discovery in RFC3971, some IPR conditions may
> > apply on its CGA part.
> >
> > SeND is useful for securing Router Advertisements between cars V2V on OCB.
> >
> > A programmer recently surveyed the existing SeND implementations:
> >
> > 1. Easy SEND, linux, source code, java
> >
> > 2. ND protector, linux, Telecom Paris Tech, source code, C, Python
> >
> > 3. ipv6-send-cga, linux, Huawei, BUPT, source code, C, Python
> >
> > 4. Cisco, IOS (no VPP, no openwrt), no source code
> >
> > 5. Juniper, JunOS, no source code
> >
> > 6. TrustRouter, github, C, python
> >
> > 7. scapy SeND patch, source code, python
> >
> > I recollect there's also a SeND implementation project (no code) for
> > Android.
> >
> > Alex
> >

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