[ipwave] Side meeting minutes for IETF 106 in Singapore

"Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong" <jaehoon.paul@gmail.com> Sat, 21 December 2019 09:14 UTC

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Here is the IPWAVE side meeting minutes for IETF 106 in Singapore.

I sincerely appreciate the participants' contributions in the side meeting.
Thank Yiwen Chris Shen for his notetaking for his minutes.

Best Regards,

<IPWAVE Side Meeting Minutes>

* Date & Time: 11/21/2019, 3:30PM to 4:30PM
* Place: Bras Basah in Raffles City Convention Center
* Agenda
 - IPWAVE Hackathon Project (Yiwen Chris Shen, 5 min)
 - IPWAVE Problem Statement Draft (Jaehoon Paul Jeong, 5 min)
 - Vehicular Neighbor Discovery Draft (Yiwen Chris Shen, 5 min)
 - Vehicular Mobility Management Draft (Yiwen Chris Shen, 5 min)
 - Security and Privacy Draft (Jaehoon Paul Jeong, 5 min)
 - Context-Aware Navigator Draft (Yiwen Chris Shen, 5 min)
 - Neighbor Vehicle Discovery and Service (Zhiwei Yan, 5 min)
 - Open Discussion for IPWAVE WG Progress (30 min)

* Participants (13 people)
  Jaehwoon Lee (DGU), Hyojoon Han (DGU), Yongjoon Joe (LSware),
  Duke Moon (Hansol), Jungsoo Park (ETRI), Bin-Yeong Yoon (ETRI),
  Guang Gary Gang (CNNIC), Zhiwei Yan (CNNIC), Ruidong Li (NICT),
  Yang Hua Rui (Huawei), Chaehong Chung (SKKU), Yiwen Chris Shen
  (SKKU), and Jaehoon Paul Jeong (SKKU)

* Side Meeting Facilitator: Jaehoon Paul Jeong
* Notetaker: Yiwen Chris Shen

* Meeting
Paul: Introduce agenda.

* IPWAVE Hackathon Project
Chris: Introduce IPWAVE hackathon:
   - Cisco blog for IPWAVE Hackathon Project:

   - Github for IPWAVE open source project:

   - Youtube for IETF-106 IPWAVE Hackathon demonstration:

* IPWAVE Problem Statement Draft
Paul: PS document, need more energy
      Update from previous version, comments from C. Perkins
      Going through some important revisions
      Comments from Carlos, still ongoing work

      Next step: find 5 reviewers to review the PS document

      Collaboration with the industry such as Hyundai Motors.

* Vehicular Neighbor Discovery Draft, Vehicular Mobility Management Draft,
  Security and Privacy Draft, and Context-Aware Navigator Draft

Paul: Introduce the VND draft
      Mix ND with routing received resistance

      Introduce mobility management in the vehicular environments.
      Plan to have a hackathon for DMM-based mobility management

      Introduce security and privacy document and next step.

* Neighbor Vehicle Discovery and Service
Zhiwei: Introduce service and neighbor discovery in ITS
      Consider the name of a vehicle as an identifier or address

      Multi-DNS can be used for service discovery
      ND-based on mDNS ad-hoc based approach
      RSU-based service discovery
      Introduce some scenarios about ND based mDNS service discovery
      There some limitations on how to use mDNS based approaches

Paul: Asking a question how to combine ND and mDNS messages.

Zhiwei: ND can be triggered when sending mDNS messages.

* Open Discussion for IPWAVE WG Progress
Paul: Introduce action items, continue revising PS documents.

Park: My current work for IPWAVE security considers a block-chain-based
      I'd like to get involved into vehicular networks.
      IPWAVE WG is a good place to develop related work.

Lin:  I am not familiar with this IPWAVE WG, but I think vehicular network
      an important work item in IPWAVE WG.

Youn: I have a question with WG collaborations, since IPWAVE WG's work is
      close to IP security WGs. The collaboration can provide a better way
      continue the work.

Paul: I have been working on I2NSF work, so we can suggest that its work
can be
      used for IPWAVE security.

Moon: I am interested in the work in this WG, I will try to contribute and
      some work in this WG.

Jo: I'm from a company, I have been working on the IP-based services.

Han: I am also considering security side of work items in IPWAVE WG.
     I need to read the drafts and then give some comments.

Paul: Vehicle networks will be important to future ITS.
      Thank you for your attention.
      Hope see you in the next meeting in Vancouver in Canada.
Mr. Jaehoon (Paul) Jeong, Ph.D.
Associate Professor
Department of Software
Sungkyunkwan University
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Email: jaehoon.paul@gmail.com, pauljeong@skku.edu
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