Re: [ipwave] Flying cars and taxi one step closer to reality

William Ivancic <ivancic@syzygyengineering.com> Sat, 19 September 2020 16:50 UTC

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The difficult part of Urban Air Mobility (UAM) is the air traffic control issues.  This is also a big problem that has to be worked out for drones to operate beyond visual line of sight - such as using LTE, 5G and other cellular technology for aircraft control.

Will

On 9/19/20, 12:32 PM, "its on behalf of Alexandre Petrescu" <its-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com> wrote:

    I learned about a new demo by Sky Drive Inc, model SD-03, on Toyota test 
    field in Japan, shown on August 31st, 2020.

    https://www.lifo.gr/now/tech_science/294406/iaponia-epandromeno-iptameno-aytokinito-petakse-me-epityxia-pote-tha-vgei-stin-paragogi-vinteo

    (the content of the URL is in Greek)

    There is a person on-board who pilots the flight (he is not just 
    transported like in e.g. Ehang demo).

    The article says production is epxected by year 2023.

    Alex


    Le 22/10/2019 à 16:01, Alexandre Petrescu a écrit :
    > Fred,
    > 
    > I would like to know whether somebody came up with groups of such flying 
    > taxis or VTOLs, like when they came up with 'platoon's of convoyed cars 
    > on the ground?
    > 
    > Alex
    > 
    > Le 19/09/2019 à 17:51, Templin (US), Fred L a écrit :
    >> Alex, Urban Air Mobility is indeed inevitable and will be the vertical 
    >> component
    >>
    >> of an integrated 3D its landscape. Thanks for the pointer.
    >>
    >> Fred
    >>
    >> *From:*Alexandre Petrescu [mailto:alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com]
    >> *Sent:* Thursday, September 19, 2019 1:22 AM
    >> *To:* Templin (US), Fred L <Fred.L.Templin@boeing.com>om>; its@ietf.org
    >> *Subject:* Re: [ipwave] Flying cars and taxi one step closer to reality
    >>
    >> SEveral companies do more and more flying taxis, now safely with 
    >> people on board.  It takes some courage, but it's a wider audience now.
    >>
    >> 3. France 2 Telematin samedi 14 octobre "Futur du Transport Urbain", à 
    >> partir du 2:48:36 dela video 
    >> https://www.france.tv/france-2/telematin/1060857-telematin.html
    >>
    >> Le 24/01/2019 à 16:34, Templin (US), Fred L a écrit :
    >>
    >>     Hi Alex,
    >>
    >>         -----Original Message-----
    >>
    >>         From: its [mailto:its-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Alexandre 
    >> Petrescu
    >>
    >>         Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2019 3:47 AM
    >>
    >>         To:its@ietf.org  <mailto:its@ietf.org>
    >>
    >>         Subject: Re: [ipwave] Flying cars and taxi one step closer to 
    >> reality
    >>
    >>         Impressive,
    >>
    >>     Thanks.
    >>
    >>         The kind of thrill seeing these videos is similar to seeing 
    >> (manned)
    >>
    >>         first plane vertical take-offs.
    >>
    >>         Airbus also featured air taxi ambitious concepts (cartoons) on 
    >> youtube
    >>
    >>         since almost two years.
    >>
    >>         A company named AKKA in Europe proposes a similar concept of 
    >> more of a
    >>
    >>         plane (horizontal take-off) which self-... flies.
    >>
    >>         The Dubai air taxi did fly a year ago, but there was no human 
    >> inside, so
    >>
    >>         one legitimately wonders whether it could actually carry that 
    >> much weight.
    >>
    >>         The new thing about the boeing video is that we see larger 
    >> propellers
    >>
    >>         and a dummy body inside (hopefully weighted).  It seems much 
    >> closer to
    >>
    >>         implementations.  Impressive.
    >>
    >>         The next step would be to see a human take responsibility of 
    >> sitting on
    >>
    >>         the drone while lifting a few meters above ground.  Like in 
    >> what they
    >>
    >>         did with first elevator in NYC, first man in first plane, bridge
    >>
    >>         engineer first walk on bridge, agency director first liftoff 
    >> towards
    >>
    >>         first man in space, etc.  Until then one still doubts :-)
    >>
    >>     Already been done, and a long time ago (Lunar Landing Research
    >>
    >>     Vehicle (LLRV) - 1969):
    >>
    >>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSlaYfxklm4
    >>
    >>     Fred
    >>
    >>         Remark, contrary to the self-piloting(?) air taxies, the 
    >> challenge for
    >>
    >>         self-driving cars is to see a car, or a group of cars, on the 
    >> road
    >>
    >>         _without_ humans inside.  One did see drivers with hands off 
    >> the wheel,
    >>
    >>         drivers on passenger seats (nobody on driver's seat), etc.
    >>
    >>         Alex
    >>
    >>         Le 23/01/2019 à 16:46, Templin (US), Fred L a écrit :
    >>
    >>             Hi, lately we have been talking quite a bit about flying 
    >> cars and taxis in a
    >>
    >>             theoretical sense, but today Boeing has issued a public 
    >> announcement
    >>
    >>             showing that they are one step closer to reality. Here is 
    >> your air taxi for
    >>
    >>             the urban air mobility environment:
    >>
    >>             
    >> https://www.yahoo.com/news/boeing-passenger-air-vehicle-prototype-111551329.html 
    >>
    >>
    >>             Thanks - Fred
    >>
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