Re: [ipwave] IPWAVE WG will not meet in Singapore

Alexandre Petrescu <alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com> Mon, 09 September 2019 13:45 UTC

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Subject: Re: [ipwave] IPWAVE WG will not meet in Singapore
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Hi Russ,

I posted this year draft-petrescu-ipwave-diaser-checksum-01

It is about communication between car and traffic lights controllers/

I maintained until 2015 draft-petrescu-autoconf-ra-based-routing-05.txt

It is about using IPv6 ND prefix exchanges between cars.  An advanced 
evolution of this draft is demonstrated between three self-driving cars 
in the AUTOPILOT project.

Alex

Le 07/09/2019 à 17:44, Russ Housley a écrit :
> Paul:
>
> As I said in my note that started this thread, we will measure energy 
> for potential work items by individual Internet-Draft posting and mail 
> list discussion of them.  So far, we have not seen any Internet-Drafts.
>
> Russ
>
>
>> On Sep 5, 2019, at 8:41 PM, Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong 
>> <jaehoon.paul@gmail.com <mailto:jaehoon.paul@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Russ and Carlos,
>> It seems like Charlie cannot afford to review the revised IPWAVE PS 
>> draft due to his work.
>>
>> Could you review the IPWAVE PS draft as chairs for the WGLC?
>>
>> BTW, could we have a short WG session in this Singapore meeting to 
>> report the progress of the IPWAVE PS draft?
>>
>> My SKKU team are preparing for IPWAVE Hackathon Project for IPWAVE 
>> mobility management in IETF-106 Singapore meeting.
>> This experience will be useful to discuss our next step.
>> Also, I am planning to implement the IPWAVE basic protocols such as 
>> IPv6 over 802.11-OCB, Vehicular Neighbor Discovery, and
>> Vehicular Mobility Management in Ubuntu Linux early next year.
>> In this IETF-106 meeting, we can discuss our next step.
>> If there is no official IPWAVE WG meeting, I want to have a bar 
>> meeting with IPWAVE WG members during the IETF-106 meeting..
>>
>> Recently, I had a meeting with a principal engineer (Mr. Zeung-il 
>> Kim) from Hyundai Motor, which is the major automotive company in Korea.
>> His team has interest in implementing IPv6 over 802.11-OCB for the 
>> vehicular services such as remote charging system,
>> context-aware navigator and infotainment for electric vehicles.
>> I will have a meeting with his team this September again.
>>
>> As you want, our IPWAVE WG need to go to the next step for the 
>> realization of IPWAVE for the industry's demands
>> in the coming autonomous vehicle era.
>>
>> Thanks for your kind considerations on my request.
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Paul
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 3, 2019 at 10:31 PM Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong 
>> <jaehoon.paul@gmail.com <mailto:jaehoon.paul@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>     Hi Charlie,
>>     Do you need more time to finish the review?
>>
>>     Thanks.
>>
>>     Best Regards,
>>     Paul
>>
>>
>>     On Sun, Aug 25, 2019 at 2:52 AM Charlie Perkins
>>     <charles.perkins@earthlink.net
>>     <mailto:charles.perkins@earthlink.net>> wrote:
>>
>>         Hello Paul,
>>
>>         Please excuse my delay.  I will get the review done in the
>>         next week.
>>
>>         Regards,
>>         Charlie P.
>>
>>         On 8/24/2019 1:55 AM, Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong wrote:
>>>         Hi Russ and Carlos,
>>>         My SKKU team have been working for IPWAVE Neighbor Discovery
>>>         for IETF-104 and IETF-105.
>>>         For IETF-106, my team are working for IPWAVE Mobility
>>>         Management.
>>>         The IPWAVE Neighbor Discovery draft will be coauthored by my
>>>         SKKU team and Sandra Cespedes
>>>         for next revision.
>>>         https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-jeong-ipwave-vehicular-neighbor-discovery/
>>>
>>>
>>>         The IPWAVE Mobility Management draft will be coauthored by
>>>         my SKKU team and Sri Gundavelli
>>>         for next revision.
>>>         https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-jeong-ipwave-vehicular-mobility-management/
>>>         <https://datatracker..ietf.org/doc/draft-jeong-ipwave-vehicular-mobility-management/>
>>>
>>>
>>>         For the IPWAVE PS draft, Charlie Perkins was supposed to
>>>         confirm whether my revision satisfies his
>>>         comments or not. For one month, there was no feedback from him.
>>>         It seems like he cannot afford to review it due to his
>>>         personal issues.
>>>
>>>         I would like to ask you as IPWAVE WG chairs to be able to
>>>         lead our group more actively by
>>>         reviewing the PS draft and submitting it to the IESG through
>>>         the WG last call..
>>>
>>>         After the completion of the IPWAVE PS draft, our group will
>>>         be able to discuss the rechartering and
>>>         new work items.
>>>
>>>         By the way, I met an engineer from the Hyundai automotive to
>>>         discuss IPWAVE-based applications
>>>         for vehicles. His team implemented a remote charging system
>>>         control protocol for electric vehicles
>>>         using IEEE 802.11n, and will use IEEE 802.11-OCB for this
>>>         system.
>>>         His team are looking for use cases of IPWAVE protocols such
>>>         as context-aware navigator to show
>>>         neighbor vehicles and pedestrians.
>>>
>>>         If IPWAVE WG is closed, we will lose the opportunity to
>>>         enable our IPWAVE work items described in the PS draft
>>>         that are the near-future demands in automotive industry.
>>>
>>>         As my personal request, it will be great to have a short
>>>         IPWAVE WG session this Singapore meeting.
>>>
>>>         Thanks.
>>>
>>>         Best Regards,
>>>         Paul
>>>
>>>         On Sat, Aug 24, 2019 at 12:22 AM Russ Housley
>>>         <housley@vigilsec.com <mailto:housley@vigilsec.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>             Dear IPWAVE WG:
>>>
>>>             We do not see the need for a meeting in Singapore.  We
>>>             believe that mail list discussion is needed to wrap up
>>>             the Problem Statement document.
>>>
>>>             We observe that the energy in this WG is pretty low.  As
>>>             a result, we are quite reluctant to re-charter to tackle
>>>             new work items.  The Problem Statement document includes
>>>             many potential topics, but without a great deal more
>>>             energy, this WG does not seem to be the right place to
>>>             tackle them..  This means that the IPWAVE WG will be
>>>             closed down once the current charter is complete unless
>>>             the chairs and our AD see a significant increase in
>>>             energy for one or more potential work items.  This will
>>>             be measured by individual Internet-Draft posting and
>>>             mail list discussion of them.
>>>
>>>             Russ and Carlos
>>>
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>>>         -- 
>>>         ===========================
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>>>         Associate Professor
>>>         Department of Software
>>>         Sungkyunkwan University
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>>>         Email: jaehoon.paul@gmail.com
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>>
>>     -- 
>>     ===========================
>>     Mr. Jaehoon (Paul) Jeong, Ph.D.
>>     Associate Professor
>>     Department of Software
>>     Sungkyunkwan University
>>     Office: +82-31-299-4957
>>     Email: jaehoon.paul@gmail.com <mailto:jaehoon.paul@gmail.com>,
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>>     <http://cpslab.skku.edu/people-jaehoon-jeong.php>
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> ===========================
>> Mr.. Jaehoon (Paul) Jeong, Ph.D.
>> Associate Professor
>> Department of Software
>> Sungkyunkwan University
>> Office: +82-31-299-4957
>> Email: jaehoon.paul@gmail.com <mailto:jaehoon.paul@gmail.com>, 
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