Re: [ipwave] Draft minutes of IPWAVE@IETF98 available

François Simon <fygsimon@gmail.com> Fri, 07 April 2017 09:53 UTC

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From: François Simon <fygsimon@gmail.com>
To: 'Alexandre Petrescu' <alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com>, dickroy@alum.mit.edu, cjbc@it.uc3m.es, its@ietf.org, dickroy@alum.mit.edu
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Subject: Re: [ipwave] Draft minutes of IPWAVE@IETF98 available
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Agree with all Dr. Roy's comments.   Fygs

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Subject: Re: [ipwave] Draft minutes of IPWAVE@IETF98 available

Dick,

Le 05/04/2017 à 01:40, Dick Roy a écrit :
> All,
>
> These are comments only, as I was not present at the meeting.
>
> 1) While there are such things as IEEE 802.11 beacons, they are NOT 
> sent when dot11OCBActivated is true.

Agreed.  The text is so too.

> 2) IEEE Std1609.2 DOES exist.
>
> 3) I would definitely NOT call the LLC sublayer "interface" between 
> the 802.11 MAC and the IPv6 networking layer SNAP.  SNAP is on its way 
> out, along with all the other 802.2 LLC functionality, AND most 
> importantly, communications in the 5.9GHz in the US use type encoding 
> (EPD if you are an IEEE Std802 O&M fan).  Call it what it
> is: "EPD".

Ok, we will keep the "EPD" layer in the figure.

Additionally, as presented in Chicago (slide 4), and based on your SNAP
comment above, I suggest the following SNAP text below:
> In addition to the description of interface between IP and MAC using 
> "Ethernet Adaptation Layer" and "Ethernet Protocol Discrimination 
> (EPD)" it is worth mentioning that SNAP [RFC1042] was used earlier to 
> carry the IPv6 Ethertype.

[...]

> 4) No single set of standards is going to "resolve the privacy 
> concern". Privacy is a system concept the takes a lot of effort at 
> every layer in the system to properly implement.
>
> 5) STAs operating OCB are NOT STAs operating in ad hoc mode; thus, OCB 
> STAs should not be labeled as ad hoc STAs.

Agreed.  OCB STAs will be labeled just "STA".

Alex

>
> Hope this helps.
>
> RR
>
> PS.  Alex, I don't believe the reflector problem has been resolved 
> yet, so forward this if you feel it's appropriate.
>
>
> -----Original Message----- From: its [mailto:its-bounces@ietf.org] On 
> Behalf Of Carlos Jesús Bernardos Cano Sent: Tuesday, April 4,
> 2017 12:35 PM To: its@ietf.org Cc: Russ Housley Subject: [ipwave] 
> Draft minutes of IPWAVE@IETF98 available
>
> Hi,
>
> We've just posted the minutes:
>
> https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/98/minutes/minutes-98-ipwave-01
>
> Please send corrections/comments by Friday, Apr 7th.
>
> Thanks a lot to Danny and Bob for taking the minutes!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Carlos & Russ
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