Fwd: [ITU+IETF] comments on workshop issue 7 (E.212 IMSIs ...) - long

Fred Baker <chair@ietf.org> Wed, 09 February 2000 19:30 UTC

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From: Fred Baker <chair@ietf.org>
Subject: Fwd: [ITU+IETF] comments on workshop issue 7 (E.212 IMSIs ...) - long
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Folks:

You are the authors of various drafts and RFCs before the house. ITU SG2
has requested (well, not in so many words, but this is what they want) that
in your next revision of your documents, you include the reference to E.212
found near the end of this note, point to it at your first use of the
acronym "IMSI", and that you review the current E.212 document to make sure
that your proposal is in keeping with the current specification.

It might be worth your while to run that update by Mr. Gallant for comment
when you make the change.

Thanks for looking into that.

Fred

>From: Andrew.Gallant@comsat.com
>Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 14:47:21 -0800
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>Cc: "Ash; Gerald R (Jerry); ALARC" <gash@att.com>,
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>     This is a set of comments on Workshop Issue 7 (E.212 IMSIs ...), and 
>     consists of:
>     
>     -  description,
>     -  search results,
>     -  information on E.212, and
>     -  other comments.
>     
>     1.  From the Workshop Report, the description of Issue 7 is:
>     
>     -  Issue #:               7
>     -  Issue Title:           E.212 - IMSIs & mobility with IP
>     -  Issue Description:     In IETF documents, IMSI's are
>                               mentioned but ITU-T Rec E.212
>                               is not often referenced. A review
>                               of the IETF documents is
>                               needed to ensure that the
>                               appropriate use of the term
>                               IMSI is used.
>     -  Related Work:          Rec. E.212
>                               Rec. E.214
>                               3GPP
>                               3GPP2
>     -  Responsible Forum:     IETF
>     
>     2.  Internet Drafts and RFCs were searched for mentions of E.212 and 
>     IMSIs.  The search results were:
>     
>     -  For E.212:             2 Internet Drafts
>                               0 RFCs
>     -  For IMSI:              6 Internet Drafts
>                               1 RFC (current
>     
>     The Internet Drafts mentioning E.212 were:
>     
>     -  SS7 over internet applicability statement
>        (draft-coene-ss7-over-ip-00.txt) and
>     -  Internet and SS7 addressing
>        (draft-coene-ss7-IP-addr-00.txt).
>     
>     The Internet Drafts mentioning IMSI were:
>     
>     -  Transparent Hierarchical Mobility Agents (THEMA)
>        (draft-mccann-thema-00.txt)
>     -  Support of IPv6 over Cellular Communications Systems (6Tel)
>        (draft-afifi-sixtel-00.txt)
>     -  IP Mobility Architecture Framework
>        (draft-ietf-mobileip-ipm-arch-00.txt)
>     -  IP Mobility Architecture Framework
>        (draft-becker-mobileip-ipm-arch-00.txt)
>     -  Key Exchange for Network Architectures (KENA)
>        (draft-mkhalil-mobileip-kena-00.txt)
>     -  Mobile PPP (MPPP)
>        (draft-ietf-pppext-mppp-01.txt)
>     
>     The RFC mentioning IMSI was:  Wireless Device Configuration 
>     (OTASP/OTAPA) via ACAP (RFC2636).
>     
>     3.  Recommendation E.212 was revised by ITU-T Study Group 2 in 1998.  
>     The title is "THE INTERNATIONAL IDENTIFICATION PLAN FOR MOBILE 
>     TERMINALS AND MOBILE USERS."  The revision reflects the more general 
>     scope of the term IMSI ("international mobile subscriber identity" -- 
>     formerly known as the "international mobile station identity") and 
>     what IMSIs could be used for.
>     
>     The "Table of Contents and Summary of Recommendation E.212 (11/98)" 
>     may be found at "http://www.itu.int/itudoc/itu-t/rec/e/s_e212.html".  
>     The summary is":
>     
>       "A plan for unique international identification of mobile terminals 
>     and mobile users is required in order to enable these terminals and 
>     users to roam among public networks which offer mobility services. 
>     International Mobile Subscriber Identity (IMSI) is required so that a 
>     visited network can identify a roaming mobile terminal or mobile user, 
>     e.g. in order to query a subscriber's home network for subscription 
>     and billing information.
>     
>       "Recommendation E.190 describes the general principles to be 
>     utilized in the assignment of ITU-T E-series international numbering 
>     resources. The procedures in this Recommendation, E.212, were 
>     developed in accordance with the principles contained in 
>     Recommendation E.190, and the statements contained in Recommendation 
>     E.190 take precedence over Recommendation E.212."
>     
>     The scope of E.212 is:  "This Recommendation describes an 
>     international identification plan for mobile terminals or mobile users 
>     of public networks enabling roaming capabilities. It also establishes 
>     procedures for the assignment of International Mobile Subscriber 
>     Identities (IMSIs) to the mobile terminals and mobile users of such 
>     networks. This Recommendation describes the format of the IMSI."
>     
>     It is also noted there that:  "an IMSI could be used to identify a UPT 
>     user or a subscriber to mobility services, as well as to identify a 
>     mobile terminal."
>     
>     A reference to E.212 from the ITU web site is:  "[E.212] 
>     Recommendation E.212 (11/98) - The international identification plan 
>     for mobile terminals and mobile users."
>     
>     4.  Other comments:
>     
>     a.  As Fred Baker said in an email, "... fundamentally, I think the 
>     ITU folks wanted to make sure that IETF use of "IMSI" and theirs 
>     correspond ...".  I agree.
>     b.  The revisions to E.212 may be of interest to the IETF.
>     c.  I am not aware of any other Workshop-related issues for E.212 
>     except for referencing the current version of the document.
>     d.  I am not aware of issues relevant to E.214, at least in ITU-T SG2, 
>     and there's not been any recent work on it there.  Perhaps whoever 
>     suggested adding E.214 to the Related Work section of the Workshop 
>     matrix could identify if there are any issues that do fall within the 
>     Workshop's focus on Numbering, Naming, Addressing, and Routing.
>     
>     -Andy Gallant
>     
>
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