Re: [iucg] [discuss] surveillance governance,, etc.

[McTim <[e-mail]>]

Jefsey,


On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 11:54 AM, Jefsey <[e-mail]> wrote:

> At 13:28 22/03/2014, McTim wrote:
>
>> Why am I involved in this thread?
>>
>
> Because you disregarded Michel Gauthier's reminder about IAB RFC 3869.
>


I didn't 'disregard" it, I merely pointed out that it wasn't germane.



>
>  I've not commented at all since the subject line was changed and we went
>> down this particular rathole.
>> Leave me out of this nonsense please!
>>
>
> I understand that this rathole and nonsense is the world peace. IMHO, you
> might be unfamiliar with press. Your kind of comments (this is your right),
> damages the image of the Dubai minority.
>


I did't comment at all in this new thread until you pulled me in.  It is
silly to suggest that anything I say can damage the reputations of dozens
of governments.



>
>  So far, you are not even speculating that there is an 'influencing
>> strategy", you are merely posting random factoids seemingly in support of
>> the other MGs snide insinuations.
>>
>
> This strategy is plainly, publicly, and authoritatevely documented as
> such. In case you are not aware:
> http://www.ntia.doc.gov/press-release/2014/ntia-announces-
> intent-transition-key-internet-domain-name-functions



Complete non-sequitor.  This announcement is NOT about IETF funding or the
alleged influencing of the IETF due to funding meetings.



>
>
> Your comments on DNS-ORC and CAIDA (Michel Gauthier could have extended to
> W3C) show that you have not read the Farewell address I quoted.



One has nothing to do with the other.



> I really advise you to do it.




I have, several times.  We obviously disagree on its meaning.



> There are good answers there to *every* "principle" (as Fadi would say)
> question discusssed on this list. Astonishing and refreshing, as it is a
> good, strong and determined US position set that for once everyone can most
> probably consensually adopt. And start from there.
>
>  My question to you still stands.
>> How would you like the IETF to be funded??
>>
>
> If you ask this to a journalist he will only report you do not any
> response yourself.
>


I think I made clear that I thought it was good news.


-- 
Cheers,

McTim
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