Re: [iucg] tonight meeting

jean-michel bernier de portzamparc <jmabdp@gmail.com> Tue, 04 March 2014 03:38 UTC

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I have accepted to take care of the
http://vgnics.net/mdrs/index.php/VGN_Concepts page. The initial part in
French is only a Draft we have to review and translate. Any input welcome.
Portzamparc


2014-03-04 2:34 GMT+01:00 Jefsey <jefsey@jefsey.com>om>:

> We had a meeting this evening at my Libre ISP. The VGN/VGNIC issue was
> discussed. as foreseen.
>
> One of the interesting inputs I was able to quote was David Conrad's
> position issued in a today mail: "there is nothing wrong with having
> multiple root servers or server systems.  What matters is the namespace,
> that is the universe of all possible names. How that namespace is
> implemented, whether it is on the "traditional" name servers or ORSN or via
> ISP's resolvers mirroring the root zone or my copying the root zone and
> installing it on my laptop, is irrelevant (particularly given DNSSEC).
>  Where things break down is when people want _different_ namespaces at the
> same time they expect those namespaces to interoperate and not leak."
> NB. David Conrad has been an acknowledged IANA Manager and has several
> times opposed my internet governance concepts. I certainly trust his
> expertise.
>
> There could not be a clearer explanation of the HomeRoot and VGNICs
> context.
>
> The debate lead to the more general approach that is documented in the
> mail I copy I sent on the internetgovtech mailing list. Actually what was
> discussed was to resume the "interbox" project, I had to interrupt, in
> including the perspective a VGN operator.
>
> 1. the http://vgnics.net was appreciated. The logo "to be at the helm of
> his own digital world" also. So, let be it!
> 2. the idea of the VGNICSuite and of VGNICSociety were discussed. The
> incorporation of a non-profit VGNICSociety has been supported. It would be
> initially a structure supporting a secretariat, etc.
> 3. I have asked for some local possible hosting of the site.
> 4. the http://vgnics.net/vgnics/index.php/Project_SV2B will be attempted.
> The idea is to conceive it as a prototype "VGN supervisor" interbox for a
> very local place (there are 750 inhabitants) to have a concrete example,
> and a good motivation.
>
> The focus will be on the HomeRoot aspects. The ORSN compilation of the top
> zone data will be discussed.
>
> The IUCG work on the DNS generalization seems to be of interest. The
> priority is to draft an SV2B road map.
> I am now going to introduce the project on my French list for the
> discussion next week.
>
> Best
> jfc
>
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