Re: [Jmap] Robert Wilton's No Objection on draft-ietf-jmap-smime-09: (with COMMENT)

Alexey Melnikov <alexey.melnikov@isode.com> Thu, 21 October 2021 14:14 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Jmap] Robert Wilton's No Objection on draft-ietf-jmap-smime-09: (with COMMENT)
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Hi Robert,

On 20/10/2021 10:36, Robert Wilton via Datatracker wrote:
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> COMMENT:
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Hi,
>
> I have to confess that I don't know IMAP, and hence my question may have an
> obvious answer, but it is unclear to me whether a server supporting the
> smimeverify capability implies that it SHOULD also support checking the S/MIME
> signature at delivery time?  If this is the case, should this be clarified,
> perhaps in section 3?
The intent was to require support of all attributes specified in the draft.
> I.e., section 3 states:
>     Servers supporting
>     _this_ specification MUST add a property called
>     "urn:ietf:params:jmap:smimeverify" to the capabilities object.
>
> E.g., section 4.1 states:
>
>     signed:  S/MIME signed message, but the signature was not yet
>        verified.  Some servers might not attempt to verify a signature
>        until a particular message is requested by the client.  JMAP
>        servers compliant with this document SHOULD return "signed/
>        verified" or "signed/failed" instead of this signature status.
>
> These two statements seem to imply that a server returning the smimeverify
> capability SHOULD also support checking the S/MIME signature at delivery
> because they SHOULD either return signed/verified or signed/failed for a
> request for smimeStatusAtDelivery, which at least implies that they have
> previously checked the signature when it was delivered.  Is that was is
> intended?
I think you are saying that bare "signed" will never be returned if the 
server also supports smimeStatusAtDelivery.

Good question, let me think about it and I will come back to you.

Best Regards,

Alexey