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[JMAP] Re: Feedback on draft-ietf-jmap-filenode-01

Neil Jenkins <neilj@fastmailteam.com> Fri, 17 October 2025 02:07 UTC

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Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2025 13:07:12 +1100
From: Neil Jenkins <neilj@fastmailteam.com>
To: Bron Gondwana <brong@fastmailteam.com>, IETF JMAP Mailing List <jmap@ietf.org>
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On Fri, 17 Oct 2025, at 06:43, Bron Gondwana wrote:
> Neil - how do you feel about "mayShare" rather than "mayAdmin" as the name?

Yes, we should use `mayShare` — this is what we've used everywhere in the actual protocol I think (both JMAP Contacts + JMAP Calendars; JMAP Mail doesn't define setting ACLs, so does not define a permission for this either).

Cheers,
Neil.

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