Re: [jose] Header criticality -- hidden consensus?

Brian Campbell <bcampbell@pingidentity.com> Fri, 08 February 2013 23:35 UTC

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Subject: Re: [jose] Header criticality -- hidden consensus?
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FWIW, I didn't see my name on the tabulation but I did 'vote'
http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/jose/current/msg01461.html


On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 4:11 PM, Richard Barnes <rlb@ipv.sx> wrote:

> We're 24 votes into the header criticality poll, so I thought I would go
> ahead and take a look at how the results are shaping up.  My initial
> tabulation is below.  The result on the FIRST POLL (the main one) is as
> follows:
>
> No: 10
> Yes: 14
>
> What I find striking, however, is that every single person that voted
> "Yes" on the FIRST POLL also voted "Yes" on the SECOND POLL.  So nobody who
> thinks that all headers should be critical thinks that a JOSE library
> should actually be required to enforce this constraint.  And that means
> that enforcing that all headers are supported cannot be a MUST according to
> RFC 2119.
>
> So I wonder if there's consensus to remove the following text from JWE and
> JWS:
> -----BEGIN-JWE-----
>    4.   The resulting JWE Header MUST be validated to only include
>         parameters and values whose syntax and semantics are both
>         understood and supported.
> -----END-JWE-----
> -----BEGIN-JWS-----
>    4.  The resulting JWS Header MUST be validated to only include
>        parameters and values whose syntax and semantics are both
>        understood and supported.
> -----END-JWS-----
>
> Otherewise, a JOSE library conforming to these specifications would be
> REQUIRED (a synonym to MUST in 2119) to reject a JWE/JWS that contains an
> unknown header, contradicting all those "Yes" votes on the SECOND POLL.
>
> --Richard
>
>
>
> -----BEGIN-Tabulation-----
> 1       2       3    Name:
> N       -       -    Bradley
> N       -       -    Ito
> N       N       A    Yee
> N       N       B    Barnes
> N       N       B    Rescorla
> N       N       C    Manger
> N       N       C    Octman
> N       Y       A    Fletcher
> N       Y       A    Miller
> N       Y       A    Sakimura
> Y       Y       -    D'Agostino
> Y       Y       A    Biering
> Y       Y       A    Brault
> Y       Y       A    Hedberg
> Y       Y       A    Jay
> Y       Y       A    Jones
> Y       Y       A    Marais
> Y       Y       A    Nadalin
> Y       Y       A    Nara
> Y       Y       A    Nennker
> Y       Y       A    Solberg
> Y       Y       B    Hardt
> Y       Y       B    Medeiros
> Y       Y       C    Matake
> Y       Y       C    Mishra
> -----END-Tabulation-----
>
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