Re: [jose] Header criticality -- hidden consensus?

Sorry about that!  But you're in the "No" camp anyway, so it doesn't really
change the outcome here.

On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 6:34 PM, Brian Campbell
<bcampbell@pingidentity.com>wrote:

> FWIW, I didn't see my name on the tabulation but I did 'vote'
> http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/jose/current/msg01461.html
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 4:11 PM, Richard Barnes <rlb@ipv.sx> wrote:
>
>> We're 24 votes into the header criticality poll, so I thought I would go
>> ahead and take a look at how the results are shaping up.  My initial
>> tabulation is below.  The result on the FIRST POLL (the main one) is as
>> follows:
>>
>> No: 10
>> Yes: 14
>>
>> What I find striking, however, is that every single person that voted
>> "Yes" on the FIRST POLL also voted "Yes" on the SECOND POLL.  So nobody who
>> thinks that all headers should be critical thinks that a JOSE library
>> should actually be required to enforce this constraint.  And that means
>> that enforcing that all headers are supported cannot be a MUST according to
>> RFC 2119.
>>
>> So I wonder if there's consensus to remove the following text from JWE
>> and JWS:
>> -----BEGIN-JWE-----
>>    4.   The resulting JWE Header MUST be validated to only include
>>         parameters and values whose syntax and semantics are both
>>         understood and supported.
>> -----END-JWE-----
>> -----BEGIN-JWS-----
>>    4.  The resulting JWS Header MUST be validated to only include
>>        parameters and values whose syntax and semantics are both
>>        understood and supported.
>> -----END-JWS-----
>>
>> Otherewise, a JOSE library conforming to these specifications would be
>> REQUIRED (a synonym to MUST in 2119) to reject a JWE/JWS that contains an
>> unknown header, contradicting all those "Yes" votes on the SECOND POLL.
>>
>> --Richard
>>
>>
>>
>> -----BEGIN-Tabulation-----
>> 1       2       3    Name:
>> N       -       -    Bradley
>> N       -       -    Ito
>> N       N       A    Yee
>> N       N       B    Barnes
>> N       N       B    Rescorla
>> N       N       C    Manger
>> N       N       C    Octman
>> N       Y       A    Fletcher
>> N       Y       A    Miller
>> N       Y       A    Sakimura
>> Y       Y       -    D'Agostino
>> Y       Y       A    Biering
>> Y       Y       A    Brault
>> Y       Y       A    Hedberg
>> Y       Y       A    Jay
>> Y       Y       A    Jones
>> Y       Y       A    Marais
>> Y       Y       A    Nadalin
>> Y       Y       A    Nara
>> Y       Y       A    Nennker
>> Y       Y       A    Solberg
>> Y       Y       B    Hardt
>> Y       Y       B    Medeiros
>> Y       Y       C    Matake
>> Y       Y       C    Mishra
>> -----END-Tabulation-----
>>
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