Re: [jose] Beyond RFC 8785 (JSON Canonicalization Scheme)

Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org> Fri, 10 July 2020 20:43 UTC

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Subject: Re: [jose] Beyond RFC 8785 (JSON Canonicalization Scheme)
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On 2020-07-10, at 22:21, Mike Jones <Michael.Jones=40microsoft.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
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> There are things I would have commented on in JCS 

Much of what discussion we had happened on the JSON mailing list.
There is a map (JSON object) key ordering mechanism in there for which I only have the word “sick”, and this was commented on the JSON mailing list [1] (in slightly more elaborate wording).  That “feature” is still in there.  No comment.

The disturbing part is that people are now running ahead and are trying to do run-arounds around the JOSE format based on the old XMLDSig thinking.  I certainly suspected that was the point of JCS, but it plaid no role in the IESG conflict review for this independent submission — I have seen very inconsistent levels of attention in IESG to considerations about how a spec will actually be used over time.

Grüße, Carsten

[1]: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/json/IePAqXNJ3On_mSRbJGn6zYt-HRs>