Re: [jose] Header criticality -- hidden consensus?

Narrows the gap by 1...

On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 4:46 PM, Richard Barnes <rlb@ipv.sx> wrote:

> Sorry about that!  But you're in the "No" camp anyway, so it doesn't
> really change the outcome here.
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 6:34 PM, Brian Campbell <bcampbell@pingidentity.com
> > wrote:
>
>> FWIW, I didn't see my name on the tabulation but I did 'vote'
>> http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/jose/current/msg01461.html
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 4:11 PM, Richard Barnes <rlb@ipv.sx> wrote:
>>
>>> We're 24 votes into the header criticality poll, so I thought I would go
>>> ahead and take a look at how the results are shaping up.  My initial
>>> tabulation is below.  The result on the FIRST POLL (the main one) is as
>>> follows:
>>>
>>> No: 10
>>> Yes: 14
>>>
>>> What I find striking, however, is that every single person that voted
>>> "Yes" on the FIRST POLL also voted "Yes" on the SECOND POLL.  So nobody who
>>> thinks that all headers should be critical thinks that a JOSE library
>>> should actually be required to enforce this constraint.  And that means
>>> that enforcing that all headers are supported cannot be a MUST according to
>>> RFC 2119.
>>>
>>> So I wonder if there's consensus to remove the following text from JWE
>>> and JWS:
>>> -----BEGIN-JWE-----
>>>    4.   The resulting JWE Header MUST be validated to only include
>>>         parameters and values whose syntax and semantics are both
>>>         understood and supported.
>>> -----END-JWE-----
>>> -----BEGIN-JWS-----
>>>    4.  The resulting JWS Header MUST be validated to only include
>>>        parameters and values whose syntax and semantics are both
>>>        understood and supported.
>>> -----END-JWS-----
>>>
>>> Otherewise, a JOSE library conforming to these specifications would be
>>> REQUIRED (a synonym to MUST in 2119) to reject a JWE/JWS that contains an
>>> unknown header, contradicting all those "Yes" votes on the SECOND POLL.
>>>
>>> --Richard
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----BEGIN-Tabulation-----
>>> 1       2       3    Name:
>>> N       -       -    Bradley
>>> N       -       -    Ito
>>> N       N       A    Yee
>>> N       N       B    Barnes
>>> N       N       B    Rescorla
>>> N       N       C    Manger
>>> N       N       C    Octman
>>> N       Y       A    Fletcher
>>> N       Y       A    Miller
>>> N       Y       A    Sakimura
>>> Y       Y       -    D'Agostino
>>> Y       Y       A    Biering
>>> Y       Y       A    Brault
>>> Y       Y       A    Hedberg
>>> Y       Y       A    Jay
>>> Y       Y       A    Jones
>>> Y       Y       A    Marais
>>> Y       Y       A    Nadalin
>>> Y       Y       A    Nara
>>> Y       Y       A    Nennker
>>> Y       Y       A    Solberg
>>> Y       Y       B    Hardt
>>> Y       Y       B    Medeiros
>>> Y       Y       C    Matake
>>> Y       Y       C    Mishra
>>> -----END-Tabulation-----
>>>
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