Re: [jose] Richard Barnes' Discuss on draft-ietf-jose-json-web-encryption-33: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com> Tue, 21 October 2014 08:02 UTC

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Subject: Re: [jose] Richard Barnes' Discuss on draft-ietf-jose-json-web-encryption-33: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
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On 20 October 2014 09:53, ⌘ Matt Miller <mamille2@cisco.com> wrote:
> As I think I've said in previous discussions about the JSON
> serialization, I can live with something verbose *BUT* would rather
> like a lighter syntax for the single-encrypt JSON serialization.
> While multiple recipients is not quite as rare in encryption as it is
> for signing, single-encrypt is still the more common usecase, and so
> optimizing for it seems like a good thing.

I've had a similar concern.  Multiple recipients is more the exception.