Re: [jose] Richard Barnes' Discuss on draft-ietf-jose-json-web-key-33: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

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Subject: Re: [jose] Richard Barnes' Discuss on draft-ietf-jose-json-web-key-33: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
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See my reply at the end prefixed by “Mike>”.

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Subject: RE: [jose] Richard Barnes' Discuss on draft-ietf-jose-json-web-key-33: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)



From: Richard Barnes [mailto:rlb@ipv.sx]
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Subject: Re: [jose] Richard Barnes' Discuss on draft-ietf-jose-json-web-key-33: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 11:45 PM, Barry Leiba <barryleiba@computer.org<mailto:barryleiba@computer.org>> wrote:
> Section 8.
> "[TBD]@ietf.org<http://ietf.org>"
> This needs to be populated before approval.  I don't know what's customary
> here, but "jose@ietf.org<mailto:jose@ietf.org>" is an obvious candidate.
>
> [JLS] If this is going to be an IANA moderated list, then it should be
> filled in by IANA at the time of publishing and not now.  I believe that was
> the original intent.

IANA does not moderate lists, and almost all of these sorts of lists
live on ietf.org<http://ietf.org>.  You're even asking for this one to be on ietf.org<http://ietf.org>
(not on iana.org<http://iana.org>).  There's no reason for IANA to care what list is
used; they will simply track whether the review was posted, and will
interact with the DE.

Barry: Would jose@ietf.org<mailto:jose@ietf.org> be a sensible thing to put here?

[JLS] I don’t have any objections to using jose@ietf.org<mailto:jose@ietf.org>.  However the original discussions for this was it would be some type of “expert review” list similar to the mime-types list.  I don’t know that the jose list would provide the same semantics.

Mike> The point of having a separate list in the spec from the working group list is that at some point (even if it’s years from now), the working group will be gone and registration requests will continue to come in.  That’s why the suggested list name is jose-reg-review@ietf.org rather than jose@ietf.org<mailto:jose@ietf.org>.  This follows the precedent that OAuth registrations go to oauth-ext-review@ietf.org<mailto:oauth-ext-review@ietf.org> rather than oauth@ietf.org<mailto:oauth@ietf.org>.

                                                            -- Mike