Re: [jose] Whiteboard discussion
John Bradley <ve7jtb@ve7jtb.com> Wed, 14 November 2012 17:17 UTC
Return-Path: <ve7jtb@ve7jtb.com>
X-Original-To: jose@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: jose@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8032521F8792 for <jose@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 09:17:50 -0800 (PST)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -3.598
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1]
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3GB-834DsEn0 for <jose@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 09:17:49 -0800 (PST)
Received: from mail-ye0-f172.google.com (mail-ye0-f172.google.com [209.85.213.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECC5B21F8791 for <jose@ietf.org>; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 09:17:48 -0800 (PST)
Received: by mail-ye0-f172.google.com with SMTP id l13so143333yen.31 for <jose@ietf.org>; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 09:17:48 -0800 (PST)
X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :message-id:references:to:x-mailer:x-gm-message-state; bh=xkDI+WI21tf/CNjMsPYY4n5L62FmqCyr/jyi+0m5Exg=; b=NpeZ2RZ3fgc66/McnMT9FjjkLy7d5NHQxdql4oy70TjQ47Ptf7yJr70dt24kbCdPAg Zy+A9vfpNiuaKBST1qKnSUD8V2+33IdqovKSujqPKGqyHBaj51a+nXxpaxcqXcftHW9S ZXTNqhOnzZgBAmPOM513frpBgvHuX2z3+/ofVfe/FRL/gzzwfCGEO8Pl4EzjHvVUfX3K vjBQW9/hadYsy1p0OMBiEBe6qASWZwSqlTka3eMiQYICUTxb6N3r0+zaS+EBkWDQaN0q CAjvMg9Nm9gBJ89pMNpaSBYmxF9nBB8OPXyy726QrIDVP+0wThKJKUdFyc3rub35Lwxj 67pQ==
Received: by 10.236.142.139 with SMTP id i11mr26659193yhj.24.1352913468388; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 09:17:48 -0800 (PST)
Received: from [192.168.1.211] (190-20-23-204.baf.movistar.cl. [190.20.23.204]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id u21sm13361526yhl.6.2012.11.14.09.17.45 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 14 Nov 2012 09:17:47 -0800 (PST)
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_41B51CDE-83B6-4F4D-A085-4E5D451DC172"
Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.2 \(1499\))
From: John Bradley <ve7jtb@ve7jtb.com>
In-Reply-To: <CAHcDwFwtov_VPhGF1CY=_Gj4rUD2Zjb81+gmoB3qLhWmpw5rzg@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 14:17:39 -0300
Message-Id: <C991C6B4-F537-41ED-B958-80B032D9C4E9@ve7jtb.com>
References: <A723FC6ECC552A4D8C8249D9E07425A70F683E49@xmb-aln-x10.cisco.com> <E5902B64-53E6-4A31-AAD6-32697EDBD58A@gmail.com> <CAHcDwFwtov_VPhGF1CY=_Gj4rUD2Zjb81+gmoB3qLhWmpw5rzg@mail.gmail.com>
To: Axel Nennker <ignisvulpis@gmail.com>
X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1499)
X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkn9yjnZpuJ72gG2upGTGt/3tbTyyKD5ENd62SdPG/41Jd/kn0p2EGOAbdz93OjRiDhqlsO
Cc: Joe Hildebrand <jhildebr@cisco.com>, "jose@ietf.org" <jose@ietf.org>, Dick Hardt <dick.hardt@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [jose] Whiteboard discussion
X-BeenThere: jose@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12
Precedence: list
List-Id: Javascript Object Signing and Encryption <jose.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/jose>, <mailto:jose-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/jose>
List-Post: <mailto:jose@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:jose-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/jose>, <mailto:jose-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 17:17:50 -0000
Yes, Joe was going to post the summery to the list. Mike and I fell sick with the flue over the weekend so I hope the same fate hasn't befallen Joe. Richard is also going to write up a alternate proposal and circulate that as well. Basically we discussed: 1 Extending JWK with formats for symmetric and private keys. 2 Adding a Password Based encryption algorithm to JWA. 3 Using JWE as the container for protected key info (JWE wrapped JWK). There was discussion on how to best arrange the new material in the specs and not have the addition slow progress. It looked like this would meet the needs of the Web Crypto folks and Matt's need for key transport. Richard, has what I characterize as an optimization, in mind. I don't intend to explain it as I don't understand it enough to do it justice. He is going to write it up. I have some photos of whiteboards, but those are probably not decipherable by non attendees. No big secret. Joe and Jim will get the results and some recommended divvying up of the work out shortly I expect. John B. On 2012-11-14, at 1:40 PM, Axel Nennker <ignisvulpis@gmail.com> wrote: > The suspense is killing me too. I am not a fan of off-list discussions. > Axel > > > 2012/11/13 Dick Hardt <dick.hardt@gmail.com> > Was there an output from this discussion? > > On Nov 7, 2012, at 8:10 AM, Joe Hildebrand (jhildebr) <jhildebr@cisco.com> wrote: > > > If you're interested in participating in the high-level architecture > > discussion we just talked about in the room, and you're in Atlanta this > > week, please send me a message off-list. > > > > This activity is not intended to be secret in any way, we are just going > > to try to put together an email to the list that combines all of the > > different ideas that we heard in the room as a coherent world view, so the > > group can form an opinion about precisely how many documents we're writing. > > > > -- > > Joe Hildebrand > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > jose mailing list > > jose@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/jose > > _______________________________________________ > jose mailing list > jose@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/jose > > _______________________________________________ > jose mailing list > jose@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/jose
- [jose] Whiteboard discussion Joe Hildebrand (jhildebr)
- Re: [jose] Whiteboard discussion Dick Hardt
- Re: [jose] Whiteboard discussion Axel Nennker
- Re: [jose] Whiteboard discussion Joe Hildebrand (jhildebr)
- Re: [jose] Whiteboard discussion John Bradley