Re: [jose] FW: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-liusvaara-jose-cfrg-curves-00.txt

[Vladimir Dzhuvinov <[e-mail]>]

+1

Apparently we have a case where a suitable JOSE representation is sought
for a new spec of elliptic curves. So JOSE looks like the natural place
to do this.

Thanks,

Vladimir

On 21/12/15 17:24, Mike Jones wrote:
> Let me second this important point that Axel made.  It's far from free for people in many companies to be able to join a new working group.  I know, for instance, that the Microsoft process to do so involves business, legal, and organizational reviews involving many people and a substantial amount of time.
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> In this case, given that draft-liusvaara-jose-cfrg-curves is producing a JOSE-specific result, I would far prefer that it be done in the JOSE working group, both for consistency reasons and to expedite people's participation, and thus the end result.
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>                                                           Thanks,
>                                                          -- Mike
>
> From: [e-mail] [mailto:[e-mail]]
> Sent: Monday, December 21, 2015 6:50 AM
> To: Mike Jones <[e-mail]>; [e-mail]; [e-mail]
> Subject: RE: [jose] FW: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-liusvaara-jose-cfrg-curves-00.txt
>
> Participating in new groups is not always easy for employees of large companies.
> JOSE and CURDLE are needed on a different level.
> JOSE is more practical, while CURDLE is more fundamental...
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> Ad 4) I prefer to keep this in JOSE.
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> From: jose [mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf Of Mike Jones
> Sent: Donnerstag, 10. Dezember 2015 04:24
> To: Jim Schaad; [e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>
> Subject: Re: [jose] FW: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-liusvaara-jose-cfrg-curves-00.txt
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> Replies inline below...
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: jose [mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf Of Jim Schaad
> Sent: Wednesday, December 9, 2015 11:51 AM
> To: [e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>
> Subject: [jose] FW: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-liusvaara-jose-cfrg-curves-00.txt
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> The chairs and AD have not yet had a discussion about this draft.   I would
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> like to get some input from the group before we do so.
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> We have been trying to shut the group down for some time, but drafts keep slowly dribbling in.  As long as the group believes it has the energy to deal with these drafts we can keep the WG open to deal with them.  However, for this document there is a second option that can be used for this document.  There is a new CURDLES group which is designed to deal with this group (the group should finish forming by the end of the year).  We could finishing closing the JOSE group and punt this over to that group to work on.
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> The input I would like to get would be:
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> 1.  Do you believe that, if this document is provided, you would be implementing this in the near future?
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> It would depend upon application demand for these curves when used with JOSE, which is yet to be determined.
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> 2.  Do you plan to participate in the CURDLES group if this document is moved from here to there?
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> Yes, if necessary
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> 3.  If we are going to adopt this document, would you intend to review and comment on the draft?
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> Yes - definitely.  I already have reviewed and commented on previously drafts.
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> 4.  Do you have a preference between JOSE and CRUDLES for dealing with this document?
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> I prefer JOSE, since there is already an existing set of highly engaged experts in this group who are familiar with the reasons for the choices made in the JOSE specs.  Doing this in JOSE will help ensure that the result is consistent with the rest of the choices made in JWA [RFC 7518].
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> Jim
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>                                                           Thanks,
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>                                                           -- Mike
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: jose [mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf Of Ilari Liusvaara
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2015 6:42 AM
>> To: [e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>
>> Subject: [jose] Fwd: New Version Notification for
> draft-liusvaara-jose-cfrg-
>
>> curves-00.txt
>> Submitted this...
>> Regarding JOSE vs. CURDLE, I believe JOSE has priority (being existant
> primary
>
>> WG).
>> (Changes from last circulated version include note about possible
>> change
> (using
>
>> just one signature algo for all OKP) and adding draft number in order
>> for submission to go through).
>> ----- Forwarded message from [e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]> -----
>> Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2015 05:58:08 -0800
>> From: [e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>
>> To: Ilari Liusvaara <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>
>> Subject: New Version Notification for
> draft-liusvaara-jose-cfrg-curves-00.txt
>
>> A new version of I-D, draft-liusvaara-jose-cfrg-curves-00.txt
>> has been successfully submitted by Ilari Liusvaara and posted to the
>> IETF repository.
>> Name:                            draft-liusvaara-jose-cfrg-curves
>> Revision:         00
>> Title:                 CFRG curves and signatures in JOSE
>> Document date:           2015-12-09
>> Group:                           Individual Submission
>> Pages:                            13
>> URL:
> https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-liusvaara-jose-cfrg-
>
>> curves-00.txt
>> Status:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-liusvaara-jose-cfrg-curves/
>
>> Htmlized:
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-liusvaara-jose-cfrg-curves-00
>
>> Abstract:
>>    This document defines how to use curves and algorithms from IRTF CFRG
>>    elliptic curves work (Diffie-Hellman and signatures) in JOSE.
>> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of
> submission
>
>> until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org.
>> The IETF Secretariat
>> ----- End forwarded message -----
>> -Ilari
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