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implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: JOSE WG , jose-chairs@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.9rc6 Precedence: list Subject: =?utf-8?q?=5Bjose=5D_Re=3A_JOSE-HPKE_=40_124=3F_=28was_Re=3A_=28very=29_draf?= =?utf-8?q?t_agenda_for_JOSE_=40_IETF_124=29?= List-Id: Javascript Object Signing and Encryption Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: --Apple-Mail=_BA4B4C47-AD0B-40A5-8BAB-E3C66750B9FF Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Hi Brian, I=E2=80=99ve added you to the agenda for the JOSE-HPKE discussion. = Please submit slides if you plan to use them.=20 Karen > On Oct 31, 2025, at 4:41=E2=80=AFPM, Brian Campbell = wrote: >=20 > Thanks Karen (and the jose chairs), >=20 > Could I have some of the time allotted for JOSE-HPKE to continue the = discussion from IETF 123?=20 >=20 > At the last meeting, I made an impassioned plea for some improvements = to the jose-hpke-encrypt (improvements that I strongly expect will be = necessary eventually, even in the absence of my pleas). I left that = meeting with the impression that there was interest in pursuing those = improvements, and with the understanding that the authors would reach = out to me and a few others to collaborate toward that goal. >=20 > However, no author has reached out, nor has any work on the draft = progressed in that direction. >=20 >=20 > On Mon, Oct 27, 2025 at 4:11=E2=80=AFPM Karen ODonoghue = > wrote: >> Below is the draft agenda for the JOSE meeting next week. It = obviously isn=E2=80=99t quite finished, but I wanted to get something = uploaded. Please send me any requests, errors, or ommissions. Please = also send a quick email to jose-chairs@ietf.org = to confirm responsible person and rough = time estimate.=20 >>=20 >> Thanks, >> Karen (for the jose chairs) >>=20 >> DRAFT AGENDA:=20 >>=20 >> JOSE Working Group @ IETF 124 >> Wednesday, 3 November 2025 >> =E2=80=A8>> 9:30 - 11:30 UTC (UTC -4)=E2=80=A8>>=20 >> St Denis >>=20 >> Notes: https://notes.ietf.org/notes-ietf-124-jose >>=20 >> Please check https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/124/agenda for an = updated link to the meetecho session. >>=20 >> Draft Agenda >>=20 >> 1. Admin, Agenda Bash, document status (Chairs,) >>=20 >> 2. JSON Web Proof Drafts (TBD, ?)=E2=80=A8>>=20 >>=20 >> JSON Web Proofs = https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-jose-json-web-proof/ >> JSON Proof Algorithms = https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-jose-json-proof-algorithms/ >> =E2=80=A8>> JSON Proof Token = https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-jose-json-proof-token/ >>=20 >> 3. Use of Hybrid Public Key Encryption (HPKE) with JSON Object = Signing and Encryption (JOSE) (TBD, ?)=E2=80=A8>> = https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-jose-hpke-encrypt/ >>=20 >> 4. Post-Quantum Key Encapsulation Mechanisms (PQ KEMs) for JOSE and = COSE (TBD, ?)=E2=80=A8>> = https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-jose-pqc-kem/ >>=20 >> 5. JOSE: Deprecate =E2=80=98none=E2=80=99 and =E2=80=98RSA1_5=E2=80=99= (?, 10 min) >> =E2=80=A8>> = https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-jose-deprecate-none-rsa15/ >> =09 >> 6. PQ/T Hybrid Composite Signatures for JOSE and COSE (Prabel, = ?)=E2=80=A8>>=20 >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-prabel-jose-pq-composite-sigs/ >>=20 >> 7. Designated Verifier Signatures for JOSE (?, 10 min)=E2=80=A8>>=20 >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-bastian-jose-dvs/ >> =09 >> 8. Public Key Derived HMAC for JOSE=E2=80=A8>>=20 >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-bastian-jose-pkdh/ >>=20 >> 9. AOB >>=20 >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> jose mailing list -- jose@ietf.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to jose-leave@ietf.org = >=20 > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email may contain confidential and = privileged material for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). Any = review, use, distribution or disclosure by others is strictly = prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please = notify the sender immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any = file attachments from your computer. Thank you. --Apple-Mail=_BA4B4C47-AD0B-40A5-8BAB-E3C66750B9FF Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Hi = Brian,

I=E2=80=99ve added you to the agenda for the = JOSE-HPKE discussion. Please submit slides if you plan to use = them. 

Karen

On Oct 31, 2025, at 4:41=E2=80=AFPM, Brian Campbell = <bcampbell@pingidentity.com> wrote:

Thanks Karen (and the jose = chairs),

Could I have some of the time = allotted for JOSE-HPKE to continue the discussion from IETF = 123? 

At the last meeting, I made an = impassioned plea for some improvements to the = jose-hpke-encrypt (improvements that I strongly expect will be = necessary eventually, even in the absence of my pleas). I left that = meeting with the impression that there was interest in pursuing those = improvements, and with the understanding that the authors would reach = out to me and a few others to collaborate toward that = goal.

However, no author has reached out, nor = has any work on the draft progressed in that = direction.


On Mon, Oct = 27, 2025 at 4:11=E2=80=AFPM Karen ODonoghue <kodonog@pobox.com> = wrote:
Below is the draft agenda for = the JOSE meeting next week. It obviously isn=E2=80=99t quite finished, = but I wanted to get something uploaded. Please send me any requests, = errors, or ommissions. Please also send a quick email to jose-chairs@ietf.org to confirm responsible person = and rough time = estimate. 

Thanks,
Karen (for the jose = chairs)

DRAFT = AGENDA: 

JOSE Working Group @ IETF = 124
Wednesday, 3 November 2025
=E2=80=A89:30 - 11:30 = UTC (UTC -4)=E2=80=A8
St Denis


Please check https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/124/agenda = for an updated link to the meetecho = session.

Draft = Agenda

1.  Admin, Agenda Bash, document = status (Chairs,)

2.  JSON Web Proof Drafts = (TBD, ?)=E2=80=A8


3.  Use of Hybrid Public = Key Encryption (HPKE) with JSON Object Signing and Encryption (JOSE) = (TBD, ?)=E2=80=A8https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-jose-hpke-en= crypt/

4.  Post-Quantum Key = Encapsulation Mechanisms (PQ KEMs) for JOSE and COSE (TBD, ?)=E2=80=A8https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-jose-pqc-kem= /

5.  JOSE: Deprecate =E2=80=98none=E2=80= =99 and =E2=80=98RSA1_5=E2=80=99 (?, 10 min)
=
6.  PQ/T Hybrid Composite Signatures for JOSE and = COSE (Prabel, ?)=E2=80=A8

7.  Designated Verifier = Signatures for JOSE (?, 10 min)=E2=80=A8
=
8.  Public Key Derived HMAC for = JOSE=E2=80=A8

9. = AOB


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