Re: [Json] [apps-discuss] JSON mailing list and BoF
"Joe Hildebrand (jhildebr)" <jhildebr@cisco.com> Tue, 19 February 2013 22:29 UTC
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From: "Joe Hildebrand (jhildebr)" <jhildebr@cisco.com>
To: "Matt Miller (mamille2)" <mamille2@cisco.com>, Francis Galiegue <fgaliegue@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Json] [apps-discuss] JSON mailing list and BoF
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On 2/19/13 3:08 PM, "Matt Miller (mamille2)" <mamille2@cisco.com> wrote: >And furthermore, "foó" versus "\u0066\u006f\u00f3" (or >"\u0066\u006f\u006f\u00b4"?). I think most of us clearly think the >former is better than the latter, but it does need to be called out. > >I also do think some level of discussion on unicode normalization, even >if the result is "this is out-of-scope," needs to take place. One of the things we should also consider adding to the scope of a potential WG is a set of design guidelines for protocols that use JSON. One of those guidelines might be to avoid using human-language text as the keys in an object, for this and other reasons. However, I immediately thought of a counter-example: if you wanted to encode a translation dictionary, you might want to do this: { "Hello": { "en-US": "Howdy" } } It might be awkward to do this instead: [ { "word": "Hello", "translations": { "en-US": "Howdy" } } ] -- Joe Hildebrand
- [Json] JSON mailing list and BoF Joe Hildebrand (jhildebr)
- Re: [Json] [apps-discuss] JSON mailing list and B… Francis Galiegue
- Re: [Json] [apps-discuss] JSON mailing list and B… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [Json] [apps-discuss] JSON mailing list and B… Joe Hildebrand (jhildebr)
- Re: [Json] [apps-discuss] JSON mailing list and B… Joe Hildebrand (jhildebr)
- Re: [Json] [apps-discuss] JSON mailing list and B… Francis Galiegue
- Re: [Json] [apps-discuss] JSON mailing list and B… Joe Hildebrand (jhildebr)
- Re: [Json] [apps-discuss] JSON mailing list and B… Joe Hildebrand (jhildebr)
- Re: [Json] [apps-discuss] JSON mailing list and B… Francis Galiegue
- Re: [Json] [apps-discuss] JSON mailing list and B… Bjoern Hoehrmann
- Re: [Json] [apps-discuss] JSON mailing list and B… Peter Saint-Andre
- [Json] Upgrading SHOULD to MUST Paul Hoffman
- Re: [Json] Upgrading SHOULD to MUST Mark Nottingham
- Re: [Json] [apps-discuss] JSON mailing list and B… Bjoern Hoehrmann
- Re: [Json] [apps-discuss] JSON mailing list and B… Tim Bray
- Re: [Json] Upgrading SHOULD to MUST Joe Hildebrand (jhildebr)
- Re: [Json] [apps-discuss] JSON mailing list and B… Joe Hildebrand (jhildebr)
- Re: [Json] [apps-discuss] JSON mailing list and B… Gonzalo Salgueiro
- Re: [Json] [apps-discuss] JSON mailing list and B… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [Json] [apps-discuss] JSON mailing list and B… Joe Hildebrand (jhildebr)
- Re: [Json] [apps-discuss] JSON mailing list and B… Francis Galiegue
- Re: [Json] [apps-discuss] JSON mailing list and B… Matt Miller (mamille2)
- [Json] Canonicalization Joe Hildebrand (jhildebr)
- Re: [Json] [apps-discuss] JSON mailing list and B… Mike Jones
- Re: [Json] [apps-discuss] JSON mailing list and B… Joe Hildebrand (jhildebr)
- Re: [Json] [apps-discuss] JSON mailing list and B… Joe Hildebrand (jhildebr)
- Re: [Json] [apps-discuss] JSON mailing list and B… Tim Bray
- Re: [Json] [apps-discuss] JSON mailing list and B… Nico Williams
- Re: [Json] Canonicalization Matt Miller (mamille2)
- Re: [Json] [apps-discuss] JSON mailing list and B… Tim Bray
- Re: [Json] [apps-discuss] JSON mailing list and B… Joe Hildebrand (jhildebr)
- [Json] Two lists? [ Was: JSON mailing list and Bo… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [Json] [apps-discuss] JSON mailing list and B… Nico Williams
- Re: [Json] [apps-discuss] JSON mailing list and B… Francis Galiegue
- Re: [Json] [apps-discuss] JSON mailing list and B… Nico Williams
- Re: [Json] [apps-discuss] JSON mailing list and B… Francis Galiegue
- Re: [Json] [apps-discuss] JSON mailing list and B… Nico Williams
- Re: [Json] [apps-discuss] JSON mailing list and B… Matt Miller (mamille2)
- Re: [Json] [apps-discuss] Two lists? [ Was: JSON … Joe Hildebrand (jhildebr)
- Re: [Json] [apps-discuss] JSON mailing list and B… Joe Hildebrand (jhildebr)
- Re: [Json] [apps-discuss] JSON mailing list and B… Francis Galiegue
- Re: [Json] [apps-discuss] JSON mailing list and B… Tim Bray
- Re: [Json] [apps-discuss] JSON mailing list and B… Joe Hildebrand (jhildebr)
- Re: [Json] [apps-discuss] JSON mailing list and B… Tim Bray
- Re: [Json] [apps-discuss] JSON mailing list and B… Francis Galiegue
- Re: [Json] [apps-discuss] JSON mailing list and B… Joe Hildebrand (jhildebr)
- Re: [Json] [apps-discuss] JSON mailing list and B… Joe Hildebrand (jhildebr)
- Re: [Json] [apps-discuss] JSON mailing list and B… Matt Miller (mamille2)
- Re: [Json] [apps-discuss] JSON mailing list and B… Francis Galiegue
- Re: [Json] [apps-discuss] JSON mailing list and B… Tim Bray
- Re: [Json] [apps-discuss] JSON mailing list and B… Matt Miller (mamille2)
- Re: [Json] [apps-discuss] JSON mailing list and B… Francis Galiegue
- Re: [Json] [apps-discuss] JSON mailing list and B… Joe Hildebrand (jhildebr)
- Re: [Json] [apps-discuss] JSON mailing list and B… Francis Galiegue
- Re: [Json] [apps-discuss] JSON mailing list and B… Tim Bray
- Re: [Json] [apps-discuss] JSON mailing list and B… Joe Hildebrand (jhildebr)
- Re: [Json] [apps-discuss] JSON mailing list and B… Tim Bray
- Re: [Json] [apps-discuss] JSON mailing list and B… Joe Hildebrand (jhildebr)
- Re: [Json] [apps-discuss] JSON mailing list and B… Paul C. Bryan
- Re: [Json] [apps-discuss] JSON mailing list and B… Mike Jones
- Re: [Json] [apps-discuss] JSON mailing list and B… Francis Galiegue
- Re: [Json] [apps-discuss] JSON mailing list and B… Nico Williams
- Re: [Json] Canonicalization Manger, James H
- Re: [Json] Canonicalization Paul Hoffman
- Re: [Json] Canonicalization Nico Williams
- Re: [Json] Canonicalization Paul Hoffman
- Re: [Json] Canonicalization Francis Galiegue
- Re: [Json] Canonicalization Paul C. Bryan
- Re: [Json] Canonicalization Francis Galiegue
- Re: [Json] Canonicalization Francis Galiegue
- [Json] Canonicalization vs. comparison Paul Hoffman
- Re: [Json] Canonicalization Nico Williams
- Re: [Json] Canonicalization Francis Galiegue
- Re: [Json] Canonicalization Nico Williams
- Re: [Json] Canonicalization Tim Bray
- Re: [Json] Canonicalization Nico Williams
- Re: [Json] Canonicalization Manger, James H
- Re: [Json] Canonicalization Riccardo Bernardini
- Re: [Json] [apps-discuss] JSON mailing list and B… Joe Hildebrand (jhildebr)
- Re: [Json] Canonicalization Carsten Bormann
- Re: [Json] Canonicalization Manger, James H
- Re: [Json] Canonicalization Francis Galiegue
- Re: [Json] Canonicalization Manger, James H
- Re: [Json] Canonicalization Francis Galiegue
- Re: [Json] [apps-discuss] JSON mailing list and B… Sadayuki Furuhashi
- Re: [Json] Canonicalization Manger, James H
- Re: [Json] [apps-discuss] JSON mailing list and B… Nico Williams
- [Json] msgpack/binarypack (Re: [apps-discuss] JSO… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [Json] msgpack/binarypack (Re: [apps-discuss]… Sadayuki Furuhashi
- Re: [Json] msgpack/binarypack (Re: [apps-discuss]… Joe Hildebrand (jhildebr)