Re: [Json] draft-goessner-dispatch-jsonpath-00.txt

Tim Bray <tbray@textuality.com> Tue, 14 July 2020 05:32 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Json] draft-goessner-dispatch-jsonpath-00.txt
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During my time at AWS I worked very heavily with JSONPath and lamented a
useful referenceable spec. I would be happy to invest cycles into this
work. There currently isn't a JSON working group but I suppose it wouldn't
be too hard to reconstitute it for this purpose.

On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 10:14 PM Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org> wrote:

> (Reply-To set to dispatch@ietf.org)
>
> I would like to initiate discussion for draft-goessner-dispatch-jsonpath:
>
> https://www.ietf.org/id/draft-goessner-dispatch-jsonpath-00.html
>
> It says:
>
> > This document picks up the popular JSONPath specification dated
> > 2007-02-21 and provides a more normative definition for it.
> > It is intended as a submission to the IETF DISPATCH WG, in order to
> > find the right way to complete standardization of this specification.
> > In its current state, it is a strawman document showing what needs to
> > be covered.
>
> (For some reason the abstract landed in the Contributing note; typical
> Internet-Draft deadline day botch.)
>
> This is a widely implemented specification that has been around for more
> than a decade; now may be a good opportunity to finally go ahead and turn
> it into a proper Internet standards document.  The immediate cause for
> writing this up now is that some IoT discovery work (some of which happens
> in W3C) can make good use of JSONPath.  Clearly, we already have JSON
> Pointer (RFC 6901) for a more limited set of applications; the
> specification would do good in defining how these two fit together.
>
> There is no active WG that immediately fits this work.
>
> Eventually CDDL may pick JSONPath up in the form of a predicate operator;
> this might make the CBOR WG the right group (which probably would then go
> ahead and write up another specification that makes JSONPath useful for
> querying CBOR instances that go beyond the JSON generic data model).
>
> Reopening the JSON WG may be another approach, as may be creating a
> short-lived targeted WG.
>
> Please discuss!
>
> Grüße, Carsten
>
>
>
> > Begin forwarded message:
> >
> > From: internet-drafts@ietf.org
> > Subject: New Version Notification for
> draft-goessner-dispatch-jsonpath-00.txt
> > Date: 2020-07-13 at 22:08:50 CEST
> > To: "Stefan Gössner" <stefan.goessner@fh-dortmund.de>de>, "Stefan Gossner"
> <stefan.goessner@fh-dortmund.de>de>, "Carsten Bormann" <cabo@tzi.org>
> >
> >
> > A new version of I-D, draft-goessner-dispatch-jsonpath-00.txt
> > has been successfully submitted by Carsten Bormann and posted to the
> > IETF repository.
> >
> > Name:         draft-goessner-dispatch-jsonpath
> > Revision:     00
> > Title:                JSONPath -- XPath for JSON
> > Document date:        2020-07-12
> > Group:                Individual Submission
> > Pages:                14
> > URL:
> https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-goessner-dispatch-jsonpath-00.txt
> > Status:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-goessner-dispatch-jsonpath/
> > Htmlized:
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-goessner-dispatch-jsonpath-00
> > Htmlized:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-goessner-dispatch-jsonpath
> >
> >
> > Abstract:
> >   insert abstract here
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of
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