Re: [Json] Complete section 3 proposal

"Joe Hildebrand (jhildebr)" <jhildebr@cisco.com> Wed, 19 June 2013 14:48 UTC

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From: "Joe Hildebrand (jhildebr)" <jhildebr@cisco.com>
To: Paul Hoffman <paul.hoffman@vpnc.org>
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On 6/18/13 4:16 PM, "Paul Hoffman" <paul.hoffman@vpnc.org> wrote:

>On Jun 18, 2013, at 1:40 PM, Joe Hildebrand (jhildebr)
><jhildebr@cisco.com> wrote:
>
>>    Since the first code point of JSON text will always be an ASCII
>> character [RFC0020],
>
>You were so good with using "encoding schemes", then you fell into this.
>:-) While the reference to RFC 20 is cute, it actually doesn't help here.

I wasn't trying to be cute, I was trying to reduce the size of the diff
from 4627.  I'm fine with changing the proposed text to be more precise.

>A more direct statement would be:
>
>=====
>Because the first code point of a JSON text will always be a character in
>the range U+0022 to U+007B,
>=====

With the suggestion of tab, etc, needing to be included, my preference
would be to say U+0001 to U+007F, rather than calling out all of the
possibilities; this allows us to decouple the "what values can occur at
the top level" conversation from this one.

-- 
Joe Hildebrand