Re: [Json] Normative reference reasoning and logistics

"Matt Miller (mamille2)" <mamille2@cisco.com> Mon, 02 May 2016 16:40 UTC

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From: "Matt Miller (mamille2)" <mamille2@cisco.com>
To: Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@greenbytes.de>
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Subject: Re: [Json] Normative reference reasoning and logistics
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> On May 2, 2016, at 10:28, Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@greenbytes.de> wrote:
> 
> On 2016-05-02 18:17, Joe Hildebrand (jhildebr) wrote:
>> If we did this, then we would have to talk the IESG into applying an STD number to RFC 7159 with known errata, or give up on JSON becoming a full Internet Standard.  In my opinion, it's worth changing the RFC number again.
> 
> ...we have errata to apply anyway, right?
> 

Yes, there are four errata that are either "Verified" or "Held for Document Update":

< https://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc=7159&rec_status=15&presentation=table >


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