Re: [Json] [apps-discuss] merge-patch in APPSA and i-json in JSON

"Joe Hildebrand (jhildebr)" <jhildebr@cisco.com> Fri, 11 July 2014 05:41 UTC

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From: "Joe Hildebrand (jhildebr)" <jhildebr@cisco.com>
To: Larry Masinter <masinter@adobe.com>, Paul Hoffman <paul.hoffman@vpnc.org>
Thread-Topic: [Json] [apps-discuss] merge-patch in APPSA and i-json in JSON
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Subject: Re: [Json] [apps-discuss] merge-patch in APPSA and i-json in JSON
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On 7/10/14, 10:40 PM, "Larry Masinter" <masinter@adobe.com> wrote:

>If most cases of JSON application specifications that
>need 'clean JSON input required for results to be
>meaningful' profiles can't use I-JSON as a basis
>for 'clean', it casts doubts as to defining I-JSON as
>a category, rather than just a set of best practices.

+1

I'd support having merge/patch both be valid I-JSON as well as only
operating on valid I-JSON (which are two separate requirements).

I don't care if that means you can't patch crufty JSON.

-- 
Joe Hildebrand