Re: [Json] JSON for Internet messages

Nico Williams <nico@cryptonector.com> Wed, 03 July 2013 17:31 UTC

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Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2013 12:31:10 -0500
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Subject: Re: [Json] JSON for Internet messages
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On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 12:15 PM, John Cowan <cowan@mercury.ccil.org> wrote:
> Tim Bray scripsit:
>> - All JSON objects MUST have unique keys
>> - All JSON messages MUST be either arrays or objects
>> - Software receiving something violating any of these MUSTs has encountered
>> conclusive evidence of serious upstream breakage and MUST NOT trust the
>> contents nor act upon them.
>
> The trouble with all this is that They Break Data.  All of a sudden, what
> was valid JSON before is not valid JSON now.  That's serious, especially
> as people *do* keep around their JSON rather than using it only transiently
> See above remarks about databases: it doesn't matter if the JSON is stores
> as JSON or regenerated on the fly, because if I put in JSON today I expet
> to get back JSON tomorrow, and not something that no longer counts as JSON.

Tim is proposing a different JSON, "Internet JSON", to be used where
appropriate.  Consider this like the BCP, only as a Standards-Track
RFC, and NOT updating/obsoleting RFC4627, but competing with it.

I could live with that.