Re: [Json] I-JSON Tpic #2: Top-Level
Nico Williams <nico@cryptonector.com> Wed, 21 May 2014 22:01 UTC
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Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 17:01:25 -0500
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From: Nico Williams <nico@cryptonector.com>
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Subject: Re: [Json] I-JSON Tpic #2: Top-Level
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On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 1:44 PM, Joe Hildebrand (jhildebr) <jhildebr@cisco.com> wrote: > On 5/21/14, 12:43 PM, "Nico Williams" <nico@cryptonector.com> wrote: > >>I'm not sure that I care much about this though. The choice to be >>interoperable with such implementations is arbitrary. If the WG wants >>that, then restricting the top-level in I-JSON is the right thing to >>do. Paul asserts that that is what the WG wanted, but Matt's reading >>of the consensus on this issue implies the opposite. We're not done >>establishing consensus though. It might help to cast the interop >>issue in starker terms: interop with RFC4627 implementations with no >>option to parse all types at the top-level. > > That's what I want. I have no position on that issue. IF that was not a WG goal, then I'd much prefer to not impose any top-level type restrictions. My position is therefore neutral on this.
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