Re: [Json] Nudging the English-language vs. formalisms discussion forward

Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net> Wed, 19 February 2014 22:12 UTC

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From: Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net>
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 09:12:00 +1100
To: Tim Bray <tbray@textuality.com>
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Subject: Re: [Json] Nudging the English-language vs. formalisms discussion forward
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Agreed. 

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> On 20 Feb 2014, at 2:49 am, Tim Bray <tbray@textuality.com> wrote:
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> For the record, I think the draft language is clear and correct and we should move forward with it.
> 
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>> On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 7:31 AM, Paul Hoffman <paul.hoffman@vpnc.org> wrote:
>> [[ Phill is the only one who has responded with a proposal to speak. Hearing whether others want to would be useful. --Paul Hoffman ]]
>> 
>> It's been a week, and yet I can't imagine that everything has been said with respect to our proposed charter item that now stands at:
>> 
>>   A set of natural-language terms and/or phrases for use in future specifications
>>   that use JSON. This explicitly excludes schema languages and similar formalisms.
>> 
>> After that, a bunch of people started talking about formalisms and actual schemas again. In order to get this decided, we need more discussion and then agreement. To that end, and to put our 90 minutes on Friday afternoon in London to best use, I will ask for at least three people to present their views in 10-minute presentations at the meeting. However, in order to cause this to not be the normal IETF "let's wait for the meeting" game, the presentations need to be done by next Monday, Feb. 24. That gives people on the list a preview of what will be said, time to argue about it, and time for the presenters to hone their slides if they want.
>> 
>> Let me know online or offline if you want to do a presentation. If you're not going to be at the meeting but want to say something, you need to find some like-minded soul with whom to work on the presentation.
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>> --Paul Hoffman
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