Re: [Json] Proposed Wording for New WG Charter

Matt Miller <mamille2@cisco.com> Tue, 18 March 2014 15:53 UTC

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On 3/18/14, 9:46 AM, Julian Reschke wrote:
> On 2014-03-18 16:40, Tim Bray wrote:
>> It also needs some evidence that there’s actually a real-world
>> need, and that this isn’t just another solution in search of a
>> problem.  I haven’t seen any such evidence yet.
> 
> The evidence is that people are abusing application/json for PATCH 
> requests already. The semantics of that is undefined right now.
> 

/me doffs hat

Teams I have worked with are already making use of json-merge-patch,
after abusing application/json in exactly this way.


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Matt Miller < mamille2@cisco.com >
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