Re: [Json] REMINDER - WGLC Ends 2013-10-11
John R Levine <johnl@taugh.com> Fri, 11 October 2013 02:38 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Json] REMINDER - WGLC Ends 2013-10-11
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> I’m OK with John’s changes, except for the MAY variation in section 9. The > second half, with all the instances of lower-case “may”, is talking about > implementation behavior. I had read it as advice for the reader as for > what implementations might do. So turning those into MAY means that they > normatively describe behavior of conforming implementations. Are we really > OK with that? My instinct is that, since this spec has held together > pretty well all these years, why don’t we leave this alone? -T There is a somewhat theological argument that if you use 2119 language at all, the capital and lower case versions of the magic words are equally normative. You could avoid that by writing around it, e.g. An implementation might set limits on the size of texts that it accepts. An implementation might set limits on the maximum depth of nesting. An implementation might set limits on the range and precision of numbers. An implementation might set limits on the length and character contents of strings. R's, John PS: There's another argument that since informational RFCs aren't normative, 4627 shouldn't have used 2119 language at all, but that horse is long since water under the barn.
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- [Json] REMINDER - WGLC Ends 2013-10-11 Matt Miller (mamille2)
- Re: [Json] REMINDER - WGLC Ends 2013-10-11 John Levine
- Re: [Json] REMINDER - WGLC Ends 2013-10-11 Tim Bray
- Re: [Json] REMINDER - WGLC Ends 2013-10-11 John R Levine
- Re: [Json] REMINDER - WGLC Ends 2013-10-11 Jim Schaad
- Re: [Json] REMINDER - WGLC Ends 2013-10-11 Tim Bray
- Re: [Json] REMINDER - WGLC Ends 2013-10-11 Bjoern Hoehrmann
- Re: [Json] REMINDER - WGLC Ends 2013-10-11 Carsten Bormann
- Re: [Json] REMINDER - WGLC Ends 2013-10-11 Matt Miller (mamille2)
- Re: [Json] REMINDER - WGLC Ends 2013-10-11 Tim Bray
- Re: [Json] REMINDER - WGLC Ends 2013-10-11 Jim Schaad
- Re: [Json] REMINDER - WGLC Ends 2013-10-11 Allen Wirfs-Brock
- Re: [Json] REMINDER - WGLC Ends 2013-10-11 Tim Bray
- Re: [Json] REMINDER - WGLC Ends 2013-10-11 Stefan Drees
- Re: [Json] REMINDER - WGLC Ends 2013-10-11 Carsten Bormann
- Re: [Json] REMINDER - WGLC Ends 2013-10-11 Allen Wirfs-Brock
- Re: [Json] REMINDER - WGLC Ends 2013-10-11 Tim Bray
- Re: [Json] REMINDER - WGLC Ends 2013-10-11 Stefan Drees
- Re: [Json] REMINDER - WGLC Ends 2013-10-11 Bjoern Hoehrmann
- Re: [Json] REMINDER - WGLC Ends 2013-10-11 Nico Williams
- Re: [Json] REMINDER - WGLC Ends 2013-10-11 Tim Bray
- Re: [Json] REMINDER - WGLC Ends 2013-10-11 Tim Bray
- Re: [Json] REMINDER - WGLC Ends 2013-10-11 R S
- Re: [Json] REMINDER - WGLC Ends 2013-10-11 Eliot Lear
- Re: [Json] REMINDER - WGLC Ends 2013-10-11 Tim Bray
- Re: [Json] REMINDER - WGLC Ends 2013-10-11 Paul Hoffman
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