Re: [Json] REMINDER - WGLC Ends 2013-10-11
R S <sayrer@gmail.com> Sat, 12 October 2013 02:07 UTC
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I think Tim is correct. - Rob On Oct 11, 2013 7:04 PM, "Tim Bray" <tbray@textuality.com> wrote: > Once again, check out > https://www.tbray.org/tmp/draft-ietf-json-rfc4627bis-06.html#rfc.section.1.2- it is perfectly clear that the syntax is the same in all specs, with the > difference that the ECMA flavor has not required JSON texts to be arrays or > objects at the top level. This difference has existed for a long time, > JSON has managed to prosper in the face of it, and there is no good reason > to do anything about it aside from noting its existence. -T > > > On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 5:04 PM, Bjoern Hoehrmann <derhoermi@gmx.net>wrote: > >> * Tim Bray wrote: >> >Have a look at the “Specifications of JSON” section. I think it makes it >> >clear that there are multiple specifications of JSON, they are all in >> >perfect harmony as to the syntactic elements of the language, and thus it >> >would be counterproductive to suggest that the reader needs to go >> anywhere >> >else to make sure they have it right. >> > >> >This is one of the nice things about working with JSON, there is no >> >disagreement as to the syntax of the language. >> >> The W3C specification for XML 1.0 says you cannot put a string like `1` >> at the top level of a document, you have to wrap it inside an element. >> >> So, if ECMA published their own specification for XML 1.0 that says the >> string `1` is a well-formed XML 1.0 document, and the W3C specification >> keeps saying the opposite, would you really describe that as perfect >> harmony with no disagreement about what constitutes a well-formed XML >> 1.0 document? What would your XML 1.0 processor do when asked to parse >> the string `1` in this scenario? >> >> Under ECMA-404 the string `1` is "JSON text" but it is not "JSON text" >> under the definition in RFC 4627 or draft-ietf-json-rfc4627bis-06. How >> is that different from the scenario above? I can't imagine you saying >> "This is one of the nice things about working with XML, some parsers >> accept the string `1` correctly as well-formed XML document, while some >> other processors correctly treat it as non-conforming garbage" but that >> is the situation we have with JSON. >> -- >> Björn Höhrmann · mailto:bjoern@hoehrmann.de · http://bjoern.hoehrmann.de >> Am Badedeich 7 · Telefon: +49(0)160/4415681 · http://www.bjoernsworld.de >> 25899 Dagebüll · PGP Pub. KeyID: 0xA4357E78 · http://www.websitedev.de/ >> > > > _______________________________________________ > json mailing list > json@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/json > >
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- [Json] REMINDER - WGLC Ends 2013-10-11 Matt Miller (mamille2)
- Re: [Json] REMINDER - WGLC Ends 2013-10-11 John Levine
- Re: [Json] REMINDER - WGLC Ends 2013-10-11 Tim Bray
- Re: [Json] REMINDER - WGLC Ends 2013-10-11 John R Levine
- Re: [Json] REMINDER - WGLC Ends 2013-10-11 Jim Schaad
- Re: [Json] REMINDER - WGLC Ends 2013-10-11 Tim Bray
- Re: [Json] REMINDER - WGLC Ends 2013-10-11 Bjoern Hoehrmann
- Re: [Json] REMINDER - WGLC Ends 2013-10-11 Carsten Bormann
- Re: [Json] REMINDER - WGLC Ends 2013-10-11 Matt Miller (mamille2)
- Re: [Json] REMINDER - WGLC Ends 2013-10-11 Tim Bray
- Re: [Json] REMINDER - WGLC Ends 2013-10-11 Jim Schaad
- Re: [Json] REMINDER - WGLC Ends 2013-10-11 Allen Wirfs-Brock
- Re: [Json] REMINDER - WGLC Ends 2013-10-11 Tim Bray
- Re: [Json] REMINDER - WGLC Ends 2013-10-11 Stefan Drees
- Re: [Json] REMINDER - WGLC Ends 2013-10-11 Carsten Bormann
- Re: [Json] REMINDER - WGLC Ends 2013-10-11 Allen Wirfs-Brock
- Re: [Json] REMINDER - WGLC Ends 2013-10-11 Tim Bray
- Re: [Json] REMINDER - WGLC Ends 2013-10-11 Stefan Drees
- Re: [Json] REMINDER - WGLC Ends 2013-10-11 Bjoern Hoehrmann
- Re: [Json] REMINDER - WGLC Ends 2013-10-11 Nico Williams
- Re: [Json] REMINDER - WGLC Ends 2013-10-11 Tim Bray
- Re: [Json] REMINDER - WGLC Ends 2013-10-11 Tim Bray
- Re: [Json] REMINDER - WGLC Ends 2013-10-11 R S
- Re: [Json] REMINDER - WGLC Ends 2013-10-11 Eliot Lear
- Re: [Json] REMINDER - WGLC Ends 2013-10-11 Tim Bray
- Re: [Json] REMINDER - WGLC Ends 2013-10-11 Paul Hoffman
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