[Json] Re: CBOR Cross-Platform Spec @ IETF-123

[Anders Rundgren <[e-mail]>]

On 2025-06-14 19:11, Carsten Bormann wrote:
> This is embarrassing.
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> Anders is routinely corrected by other WG members for statements like the below.
> (This is what I meant by waste of time.)

To me it seems like a waste of time supporting an I-D, where the actual decoder implementations reject fully established CBOR constructs.  The primary developer [understandably] remain dead silent...

BTW, writing CBOR text-book without having an API, seems like a rather daunting task.

Anders

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> JSON chairs: You may want to consider whether this bait is on-topic for the JSON WG.
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> Grüße, Carsten
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> 
> On 2025-06-14, at 19:06, Anders Rundgren <[e-mail]> wrote:
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>> It might be useful knowing that the CBOR WG (informally headed by Mr. Bormann), have rejected the entire idea creating a "JSON Challenger".
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>> In addition, Mr. Bormann is actively supporting another (and in fact quite similar) effort [*], where the authors have concluded that in order to achieve fully deterministic encoding, you must convert floating point numbers without fractions to integers.  There is no ZERO scientific support for this idea, not to mention that it is not compatible with current CBOR practice and implementations.
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>> Anders
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>> *] https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-mcnally-deterministic-cbor-12.html
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>> On 2025-06-14 18:40, Carsten Bormann wrote:
>>> A quick response for the benefit of those people in the JSON community that are not following CBOR closely:
>>> Anders Rundgren is pursuing a personal project here that does not have any support in the CBOR community.
>>> I’ll leave it to you to judge this project, but would advise you to not waste your time.
>>> (Creating documentation for specific CBOR implementations such as that peddled by Anders is of course fine and would have our support.
>>> There are also other efforts to write more book-like documents about using CBOR that are not actively trying to distract from CBOR WG work.)
>>> Grüße, Carsten
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