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Re: [Json] JSON merge alternatives

Nico Williams <nico@cryptonector.com> Thu, 20 March 2014 02:35 UTC

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From: Nico Williams <nico@cryptonector.com>
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Subject: Re: [Json] JSON merge alternatives
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On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 7:55 PM, Manger, James
<James.H.Manger@team.telstra.com> wrote:
>> Right.  Why not just drop draft-ietf-appsawg-json-merge-patch?
>
> Because it is creates intuitive and succinct patches for many most common cases.

Well, sure, but it should be possible to take an original and a patch
written in one style and convert to the other style locally, then
PATCH using the one style.

Having just one JSON PATCH schema is more likely to interop than having two.

Of course, the alternative style might still be useful even if it were
only useful locally.

I'll leave it to someone else, methinks, at least for now.

Nico
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