Re: [Json] JSON Sequence support for log files

Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org> Wed, 07 May 2014 23:20 UTC

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Off-topic (I don’t have an opinion on the on-topic discussion), but somebody was wrong on the Internet:

> the only ASCII control characters that work are LF and TAB

(There is no TAB character in RFC 20.  I think you mean HT.)

If you think that HT “works” for any definition of that word I don’t know where to start.

RFC 20 is exactly right:

   HT Horizontal Tabulation
      (punched card skip)

Don’t use HT outside the domain of punched cards.

(Well, it was useful with the LA36† at 300 bit/s because it advanced the carriage so much faster than eight spaces would.
[I’m too young to have extensive experience with ASR33s.]
But that replacement could be done in the line driver so it never had a place in source files.)

By the way, a quite respectable number of people*) use FF characters as information separators.  FWIW.

Grüße, Carsten

*) Like, us, when we write RFCs.  Does your editor blow up on those, too?

† http://www.columbia.edu/cu/computinghistory/la36.html