Re: [Json] Proposal: the minimal edit
John Cowan <cowan@mercury.ccil.org> Tue, 25 June 2013 01:30 UTC
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Paul Hoffman scripsit: > I'm not sure what you mean by "exclude". The sentence Tim was referring > to is about inclusion: > > - ECMAScript implementations can generate and consume code points > in JSON strings that are not Unicode characters. There is no point in putting this item into a list of differences unless it is not true of RFC-JSON. If this language is to be added, it follows that RFC-JSON excludes certain code points that are not Unicode characters. But exactly which code points? As worded, presumably all of them: the surrogate code points, the non-character code points (a term of art in Unicode; it does not mean "code points that are not characters", but refers to a specific list of 66 code points), and the unassigned (as of some particular Unicode version) code points. Tim's proposed revision replaced the last five words with "that can never be Unicode characters", thus excluding from RFC-JSON only the surrogate code points and the non-character code points, but not the unassigned code points. As it turns out, this is indeed what he meant to say. My preference would be to exclude only the surrogates, not the non-characters, which is yet a third position. My suggested wording would be simply "that are surrogates". (Strictly speaking, code points are not characters; code points *represent* characters. This editorial point is orthogonal to the current discussion.) -- He made the Legislature meet at one-horse John Cowan tank-towns out in the alfalfa belt, so that cowan@ccil.org hardly nobody could get there and most of http://www.ccil.org/~cowan the leaders would stay home and let him go --H.L. Mencken's to work and do things as he pleased. Declaration of Independence
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- Re: [Json] Proposal: the minimal edit Paul Hoffman
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