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Re: [Json] [apps-discuss] merge-patch in APPSA and i-json in JSON

Paul Hoffman <paul.hoffman@vpnc.org> Tue, 08 July 2014 17:36 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Json] [apps-discuss] merge-patch in APPSA and i-json in JSON
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On Jul 8, 2014, at 10:27 AM, Larry Masinter <masinter@adobe.com> wrote:

> - Does application/merge-patch+json require/default to the i-json profile?

No. draft-ietf-appsawg-json-merge-patch doesn't mention I-JSON.

> - Is merge operation defined for target JSON that isn't i-json?

Yes. The merge operation is defined for all targets, regardless of the targets' profile of JSON.

> - If so, does it preserve i-json? (is the result i-json if the original was  i-json?

There is no assurance of that; it is orthogonal. draft-ietf-appsawg-json-merge-patch doesn't do anything special for any profile of JSON.

> - Or is merge required to, or allowed to, ALWAYS produce i-json?

No. draft-ietf-appsawg-json-merge-patch doesn't mention I-JSON.

> You'd think it should be easy to answer these questions given the two documents.

It is easy: draft-ietf-appsawg-json-merge-patch doesn't mention I-JSON.

> Perhaps I'm missing the obvious.

It seems that you are. draft-ietf-appsawg-json-merge-patch doesn't mention I-JSON.

> If there's a problem, I'm not sure which one would need to change. Possibly both. Could we see some editorial collaboration to make the answers clearer? 

There is no reason for draft-ietf-appsawg-json-merge-patch to consider any profile of JSON.

--Paul Hoffman

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