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Re: [Json] JSON Schema Language is nearly done: int53

"Manger, James" <James.H.Manger@team.telstra.com> Mon, 29 July 2019 01:02 UTC

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From: "Manger, James" <James.H.Manger@team.telstra.com>
To: Ulysse Carion <ulysse@segment.com>
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Thread-Topic: [Json] JSON Schema Language is nearly done: int53
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Subject: Re: [Json] JSON Schema Language is nearly done: int53
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> Given that introducing int64 as a JSON number type would be a footgun for many sorts of applications, I agree it should be changed.
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> How would you feel about simply removing int64/uint64, but otherwise keeping everything else as-is? I don't know if adding "native" support for string-represented bigints is a great idea, as there are so many different options. Smaller specs are the ones most frequently implemented correctly and securely.

Just removing int64/uint64 is ok. I’d prefer to have int53. It covers all integer cases that work sensibly. Other options (int8, unit32, etc) are merely nice-to-have hints that could be omitted for a smaller spec.

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