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[Json] Authorship

Paul Hoffman <paul.hoffman@vpnc.org> Fri, 27 September 2013 00:29 UTC

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<co-chair hat on>

On Sep 26, 2013, at 4:24 PM, Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net> wrote:

> * Since this document is so similar to 4627, have you considered leaving Crockford on the author list?

As we said not long ago, we have not heard back from Douglas, even after multiple attempts to reach him. Leaving his name as a co-author means a few things:

- He agrees with everything in the document that has his name on it. We cannot tell if that is true, and we suspect it might not be.

- He can cause the eventual RFC to never be published by never responding during AUTH48, the last step in the RFC publication process. That would mean that the hard work that many people have done here would be a waste of time and energy.

If Douglas himself asks to be the lead editor again under normal IETF rules, the co-chairs would be happy to have him back and happier to have his name where it should be on the eventual RFC. Without any such agreement, or even acknowledgement that we have tried to reach him, we were forced to move on.

--Paul Hoffman

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