Re: [Jsonpath] JSONPath WG next steps

"Murray S. Kucherawy" <superuser@gmail.com> Thu, 24 December 2020 16:35 UTC

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From: "Murray S. Kucherawy" <superuser@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2020 08:35:31 -0800
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I suggest draft-ietf-jsonpath-base-00.

-MSK

On Wed, Dec 23, 2020 at 11:51 PM Tim Bray <tbray@textuality.com> wrote:

> Hmm, draft-ietf-jsonpath-00 certainly wouldn't offend me, but on the
> other hand there's a lot to be said for sticking to conventions.  I'm
> imagining someone writing a bot to plow through WG drafts and relying on
> the convention. I've added Murray to the "To" line to see if he has an
> opinion.  James? Anyone else?
>
> On Wed, Dec 23, 2020 at 11:27 PM Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org> wrote:
>
>> On 2020-12-24, at 08:14, Glyn Normington <glyn.normington.work@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Out of interest, why the "stutter" in the name? Wouldn't draft-ietf-
>> > jsonpath-00 be less cumbersome? I don't feel strongly, but it would be
>> > good to know the rationale.
>>
>> Internet-draft naming for WG documents is
>>
>> draft-ietf-wgname-subject-subject-subject-nn
>>
>> Now if there is only one draft in the WG, we might leave the subject off
>> entirely.
>> I actually find a few cases where this has been done:
>>
>> draft-ietf-cnrp-12.txt
>> draft-ietf-geojson-04.txt
>> draft-ietf-gsmp-11.txt
>> draft-ietf-itrace-04.txt
>> draft-ietf-lisp-24.txt
>> draft-ietf-otp-01.txt
>> draft-ietf-sming-02.txt
>> draft-ietf-upsmib-05.txt
>>
>> Most of these are older cases (1994 to 2006, with geojson at 2016 being
>> the newest), but it sure could be done again.
>>
>> (Some of the WGs then did develop further drafts with non-empty subject
>> parts, e.g., lisp.)
>>
>> Grüße, Carsten
>>
>>