Re: [KAML] Re: Chicago bar-BOF summary

Leif Johansson <leifj@it.su.se> Wed, 12 September 2007 07:12 UTC

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>
> I would be happier with this solution if the PAC format were at least
> an informational RFC.  The format is now well known and widely
> implemented, but AFAIK the description document isn't available
> without all the old warnings.  People have also found in practice that
> the PAC scales to an unpleasant size in many real deployments.
What we are trying to do here is probably a bit more general than PAC
which afaik
contains information about group membership. By comparison a SAML attribute
assertion is far more portable, based on published standards and equiped
with more
expressive power. In addition SAML is a very short stretch for MSFT to
implement
at least technically.

    Cheers Leif

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