Re: [karp] rt-dir review of draft-ietf-karp-crypto-table
Stephen Kent <kent@bbn.com> Tue, 28 May 2013 16:34 UTC
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Subject: Re: [karp] rt-dir review of draft-ietf-karp-crypto-table
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On 5/23/13 3:08 PM, Sam Hartman wrote: >>>>>> "Stephen" == Stephen Kent <kent@bbn.com> writes: > Stephen> Randy, You're right that each BGPSEC router has a private > Stephen> key. However, the key table is designed to manage key > Stephen> rollover for keys that are shared on a pairwise basis. The > Stephen> private router key does not have that property, so it seems > Stephen> a bad fit. I should have been more precise in my reply. > > Here are some of the reasons I think the key table is a bad fit for > managing asymmetric key pairs: > > * Symmetric key pairs have both a public and private portion. asymmetric > The > current key table is designed assuming a single asymmetric key. symmetric > It > doesn't have a concept of a portion of a key row that can be public > nor does it have a concept of making sure the public key corresponding > to a private key row is available. I agree that the key table is not a good fit for these reasons. > * You often need additional public information such as certificates (or > in some cases CRLs or cached OCSP responses) to provide to a relying > party to make an asymmetric key useful. The key table is not designed > to manage this information. I don't know much about BGPSEC, but my > assumption is that it builds on the RPKI's certificate and key > management practices. If so, those practices seem very specialized to > build into something like the key table. more good reasons. Yes, BGPSEC makes use of the RPKI for distribution of certs and CRLs for router keys. > * The concepts of peers, interfaces, key names and protocol specific > information seem inappropriate to private keys. secret Yes, BGPSEC router keys are neither peer nor interface-specific. Steve
- [karp] rt-dir review of draft-ietf-karp-crypto-ta… Sam Hartman
- Re: [karp] rt-dir review of draft-ietf-karp-crypt… Stephen Kent
- Re: [karp] rt-dir review of draft-ietf-karp-crypt… Randy Bush
- Re: [karp] rt-dir review of draft-ietf-karp-crypt… Stephen Kent
- Re: [karp] rt-dir review of draft-ietf-karp-crypt… Sam Hartman
- Re: [karp] rt-dir review of draft-ietf-karp-crypt… Stephen Kent