Re: [karp] Proposal on securing PCEP by means of TLS

Qin Wu <bill.wu@huawei.com> Wed, 24 July 2013 04:50 UTC

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From: Qin Wu <bill.wu@huawei.com>
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Hi,Diego:
Very interesting draft. TLS seems to bring more benefit for key management.

Would it be good to discuss securing PCEP by TCP-AO as well since TCP-MD5 has been obsoleted by TCP-AO?

Also it is better to discuss how TLS/TCP can be used to deal with Vulnerabilities concerns raised in RFC5440.

Another comment is when both PCC and PCE support both TLS/TCP and TCP, how does PCC select transport protocol? TCP is mandatory or both are mandatory? Does it rely on manual configuration or dynamic discovery?

Regards!
-Qin
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From: pce-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Diego R. Lopez
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Subject: [Pce] Proposal on securing PCEP by means of TLS

Hi,

Oscar and I have prepared a draft on applying TLS to PCEP security:

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Filename:        draft-lopez-pcp-pceps
Revision:        00
Title:           Secure Transport for PCEP
Creation date:   2013-07-10
Group:           Individual Submission
Number of pages: 8
URL:             http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-lopez-pcp-pceps-00.txt
Status:          http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-lopez-pcp-pceps
Htmlized:        http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-lopez-pcp-pceps-00


Abstract:
  The Path Computation Element Communication Protocol (PCEP) defines
  the mechanisms for the communication between a client and a PCE, or
  among PCEs.  This document describe the usage of Transport Layer
  Security to enhance PCEP security, hence the PCEPS acronym proposed
  for it.  The additional security mechanisms are provided by the
  transport protocol supporting PCEP, and therefore they do not affect
  its flexibility and extensibility.

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Comments and contributions will be extremely welcome.

As you can expect, we'd like to have the opportunity to present and discuss it in Berlin.

Be goode


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